I paid $2.90 at Casa Grande Arizona on Saturday.

Now yer talkin'.... With Avgas prices that low, we won't
have to worry about getting e0 mogas....

Manage one, with almost no oversight at all. Don't own it, yet...

Paid $2.79 in KLEE (Leesburg FL). Flew down from Maine in the 180, stops in Charleston, Sugarloaf Key, Everglades City, St. Augustine, Clearwater, Tallahassee, and back to Charleston for Turkey. Be back in Maine for the weekend. By using airnav.com I've spent less than $1,000 in fuel to travel over 2,600NM. At this rate I'll be able to afford Sun-n-fun in April![/img]

I'm with ya there. If fuel is reasonably priced next summer, I'll
fly my 180 to Oshkosh again. Flew it there in 2007 and spent
$1,495.42 round trip on fuel (FWIW, some of that was spent
goofing around at West Yellowstone, stuff like that).

We're down to 3.80 a gallon at KORK now.

bigdawg wrote:
Right now wholesale 100LL is running about $1.25 over premium mogas, and $1/gal profits at small airports (at least folks like me trying to keep GA affordable) is extremely rare. If I get half that, I am doing good.

That's interesting because here in Montana wholesale avgas is usually about 20-30 cents over premium mogas. Right now the wholesale price is about $2.15, that's down over $2 per gallon from its high.

N1593Y wrote:Mogas would look awfully good today if airports only carried it.

Here in Oregon, we just went to ethanol-loaded auto-fuel for all grades at gas stations. The only provision pilots could work was that auto-fuel for sale at airports can be sold un-blended. (The alcohol is added at the distributor.)

The strip where I'm based just added 92-oct E-0 to go along with the 100LL truck. (I won't plug the field, since he wants to keep it residents-only for now.) At last check, the auto-fuel was $1.10 / gallon cheaper.

I priced out the auto-fuel STC for my 150 horse Tri-Pacer: $1.50/horse ($225) from either Peterson or the EAA. And my mech will charge one hr labor to install the placards and do the log-book entries.

I figure at $8/hr saving, that'd pay for itself pretty quickly, so will probably do it next spring.

Benton 29nov08

I've been burning high test auto gas for several years in the scout. I recently had more routes added, which has me on a 855 hours/year pace just for work, not counting the personal use. At 10 gal/hour and saving an average of $1.00/hour, there is $8550 savings per year.

The way I look at it is that it is more then a free overhaul every 2 1/2 years.

Amend that last thing to saving $1.00 per gallon, or $10 per hour.

patrol guy wrote:Amend that last thing to saving $1.00 per gallon, or $10 per hour.

Transportation has a lot to do with the cost of the fuel too. If I'm correct, I think there is a BP refinery in Montana (may be Minnesota) that produces 100ll year round. The BP refinery in Toledo produces is about half the year, and then they have to ship it by rail from Montana to the rack in Toledo. Exxon barges their 100ll from somewhere way down south (Louisiana area) up to our area, which is why their 100ll is so much more expensive, and there aren't too many Exxon dealers around here. Ohio is almost primarily AirBP.

The price gap between 100ll and premium mogas closed a little this past week, now about a $.75 spread.

I know Koch Refinery in St Paul MN makes 100LL. My brother is just north of the Twin Cities and when it was costing him $3.69, it was costing my little airport over $5. I figure it must cost about $8,000 to haul an 8500 gallon tanker load an extra 200 miles.

Branding has a lot to do with it too. Even though BP owns the refinery and rack in Toledo, they sell to everyone. The cheapest you will get fuel is by full 8,000 gal load. An Avfuel FBO on the other side of town just bought a full load of 100ll for $.18 more per gallon than I paid for a 1,000 load, including the additional transportation (about $.25/gal). In other words, my fuel is $.43 cheaper per gallon because I am branded by the company that owns the refinery and rack. No matter what fuel brand you purchase, their is a good change the fuel going into your tank came from another fuel supplier. I used to have Texaco, but noticed the BP truck was delivering all of my fuel, so I skipped the middle man and my fuel became cheaper.

$2.85 at Warrensburg, Mo and $2.90 at Iola, Kansas currently around me. But could still pay $5.00 if I tried at airports within same range.

Pat

100LL 2.51/gallon at Anoka county in Minneapolis.

We paid 4.45/gal when fuel was at its highest...you have to add .15 cent per gallon for credit card fees to break even on the fuel, not considering investment in electricity, computers, phone-lines, and expensive tanks/pumps.... Yep, most of it is still sitting out there for sale at $4.90 even though we are the cheapest fuel in the immediate area. We, like many small airports, will have to take a chance and lower the price to get it sold believing we can get another load bought before the price goes back up.

Ralph --- Winifred, (Missouri Breaks) Montana 9S7

It is about 2 months later and the fuel prices in northern Idaho have not changed much at all. It is $5.50 per gallon at our local airdrome.

flyer

The price around here stabilized a few weeks ago at about 3.99/gal. Unless the price of crude drops drastically, the price probably won't change until spring, when heating oil won't be in demand. The price of 100ll is varying by region like never before, and I'm not exactly sure why...

bigdawg wrote:The price around here stabilized a few weeks ago at about 3.99/gal. Unless the price of crude drops drastically, the price probably won't change until spring, when heating oil won't be in demand. The price of 100ll is varying by region like never before, and I'm not exactly sure why...

Heating oil and gas are different and not dependant on each other. Now as I understand it Diesel or heating oil can be refined from crude, but not both. Gas and heating oil can both be refined from crude if I understand it correctly. Heating drives the diesel fuel price and I assume jet fuel, but not gas.