New to me 180J. Found a fuel leak at the valve so removed and sent to McFarlane. Short story is it’s fubar’d to the point it’s not repairable.

So....

Anyone have some ideas on where to source one short of buying a new one from Cessna?

skywagoncity.com I wonder if late model 182's have the same valve? Also wonder if it is different than my 1954 180?

I’m on a trip in da islands at the moment so I can’t look at the part number but I wondered how many models used the same valve.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Salvage yard is likely. Dave at Palmer, AK, 907-745-6969.

According to McFarlane, 180 through 180J use the same valve. 0311070-1. There is one on ebay right now for $1,075. Wow, what a price and I wonder what Cessna wants.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/0311070-1-Cess ... kH&vxp=mtr

Univair has them new for $4,700.00, or this guy has one in "as removed condition" for $100.00.

http://www.2040-parts.com/cessna-fuel-s ... -i2022179/

That is about the biggest price spread I have ever seen on ANY part.

Yingling has it listed for 3800 as well. I guess univair really doesn’t want to sell theirs....

Saw the one on eBay. It’s a possibility.

Skywagoncity has I believe 2 listed.

Saw a few listed on Controller.

Hope to get on the horn when I get home. Day job is playing the part of a Falcon 50 driver and am in the tail end of a 16 day trip. I’m in the Bahamas so it’s not all bad. Hard to work on something 1500 miles away though...

Thank you for the replies. We owned a super cub (loved that thing) but it went away 17 years ago. My father and I just picked up this bird so it’s been a long time since I’ve had any dealings with this sort of thing.

Got a used one from Skywagon City few years ago, think it was $2200 after shipping, overhaul kit, and core charge since mine was bust. Still feel really stupid paying that much for a friggin T-valve. Looked high and low for around a week, was the best deal available then, and it was in great condition. Hope you find a better price!

I try to block these kind of memories out, thanks for the reminder [emoji23]

Curious what is breaking to make them junk. Looks pretty straight forward in the parts diagram.

Ours apparently had been repaired somewhere and they buggered it up. I’m not near the books to research how long ago it was. Symptom we found was it leaked when switched to the right tank. McFarlane sent us pics and somehow the swaged lip that hold the o-ring in place is missing material that can’t be built up again.

Looks like we pulled the trigger on one from B.A.S. that is guaranteed to pass overhaul. Sending it straight to McFarlane to have them go through and hopefully it will come out ok on the other side.

Thanks for the help and replies gentleman.

Holy fk-ing crap, I would've never guessed those prices, cessna parts are like booming real estate. I have 1956 and 1960 one sitting out the back still installed in the fuse's as well as a 172 valve somewhere, gotta start researching these things and selling some parts!

Last time I worked on one of these it took a CLOSE look from the side to see that the top square plate was no longer flat. Very slight visible distortion- Shaft was not at 90 degrees vertical from the Base Block- Cause was CONSTANT uneven pressure at the bottom of the shaft (no ball and spring on the "back side") caused it to eventually push on the the "Cam" and distort the top plate ever so slightly.
New Top Plate was all we needed-
But put in an overhaul kit of balls- springs- seals etc. anyway.

Hope it helps

I just realized that part of the message in my earlier reply is:

Just putting in an overhaul kit-
MAY not solve the problem-
IF you Still have a distorted square Top Plate-

Rogue wrote:Holy fk-ing crap, I would've never guessed those prices, cessna parts are like booming real estate. I have 1956 and 1960 one sitting out the back still installed in the fuse's as well as a 172 valve somewhere, gotta start researching these things and selling some parts!

Th little nut on the shaft for adjusting the seats up and down, or reclining is worth $1400 from Cessna. Their parts are insane...

I feel your pain, just had mine overhauled @McFarlane due to leaking at the shaft and (as we found out when removing the engine) it wouldn't turn off the fuel. The bill was a bit over $1k because of a bent camshaft within. No idea how that even happens, but that single part was $400 on top of the overhaul kit/labor. I think these valves are more fragile than people realize, and they get abused by ham fisted pilots. They are also in a perfect place to get kicked by unsuspecting passengers.

McFarlane did a good job though, it turns considerably smoother now and passed their pressure tests. Hoping this is the last time I need to have that part out.

Rob http://www.robairrepair.com overhauled my valve and might have some spares lying around. He’s always been reasonable with his prices.

A few weeks after I bought my 180 I walked into into my hangar to find a strong smell of avgas and a few little puddles under the airplane.

Leak came from the selector. We installed the McFarelane rebuild kit and buttoned it back up, worked for a day. Next day it didn't. Couldn't turn the fuel off and stop it from getting to the engine. Turned out to be a small bend/Nick in the o-ring retaining ring flange. It's a pain getting the o-rings seated and with the little nick mine would pop out after a little use. We ended up shaving the nick down a little with a tiny dremmel bit and the valve has worked for the last year. The previous owners mechanic was in there only a year prior and I think they caused the damage getting the old o-rings out. Not sure it this helps but something to keep an eye out for. Be careful not to damage anything on the rebuild too.

On the positive side the avgas that soaked the belly was a great degreaser and made cleaning out decades of dirt a little easier.

colopilot wrote:I feel your pain, just had mine overhauled @McFarlane due to leaking at the shaft and (as we found out when removing the engine) it wouldn't turn off the fuel. The bill was a bit over $1k because of a bent camshaft within. No idea how that even happens, but that single part was $400 on top of the overhaul kit/labor. I think these valves are more fragile than people realize, and they get abused by ham fisted pilots. They are also in a perfect place to get kicked by unsuspecting passengers.

McFarlane did a good job though, it turns considerably smoother now and passed their pressure tests. Hoping this is the last time I need to have that part out.

Well.....

Today’s news. The call came in that the cam is bent in the used valve. We are sending our original back with the hopes the cam is ok in it. Otherwise the used valve we bought goes back and we continue the search. New part from Cessna is on a 2 month backorder....

Wow on the bent cam. Mine still works, is easy to turn, but don't think I'm going to touch it anymore. Ha

180Marty wrote:Wow on the bent cam. Mine still works, is easy to turn, but don't think I'm going to touch it anymore. Ha

I have had a few Japanese motorcycles in my day that had screws that I swear were made of butter.

I am thinking Cessna sources some of their parts from the same supplier.....