Hey guys, I know I've brought this up before but Im starting to look a bit more seriously into it.

I'm still looking into the option of coming over to the states to do both my PPL and CPL. my current licence is equivalent to what i think you guys call an LSA.

I was wondering if there are any instructors on here, or flight school operators I can talk to. Im basically needing to find out to what point my previous hours will count, the legalities of being from another country, and try and work out an estimate as to what my training will cost me. as I will then need to factor in my accommodation flights, visas, converting the licence back to Australia ect and see how cost effective the option is.

what I would really love to do is train with a BCP member, and as part of my training, do a bit of a flight around the states to meet up with as many other BCP members as possible, make a bit of a thing out of it!

Timbo,

A&P, CFII, MEI, SES. I give surfing/sailing lessons too and can roll a kayak with one hand. My airplane can be switched to dual instruction insurance anytime, with the drop of a dime.

Anyway, Mate I owe you a few rides at no charge. Please, at least stop in! Email an itinerary. Very excited to see you Mate!

-Ted

DrifterDriver wrote:what I would really love to do is train with a BCP member, and as part of my training, do a bit of a flight around the states to meet up with as many other BCP members as possible, make a bit of a thing out of it!

Drifter, you are going to take off that ridiculous mask while your here, yes?

If you find your way to Texas I'd be honored to show you around.

You have a ride waiting for you in Wyoming too, Tim!

mate I cant take off the mask, behind it is a face so good looking i would run the risk of turning you, its just not worth the risk.....

.....or so i keep telling myself....

TED! i forgot you where an instructor!!! we will be talking! your coming back over to aus again in the next few months arnt you? we can talk it through while casting a line i think!

thanks for the offers over there guys! whether its for flight training or not, I still intened to do a trip over there travelling around to meet you guys, a bit of a BCP trip! but the same offer still goes, there is a plane, fishing boat and accommodation here in byron bay Australia for any bcp member who ever wants a bit of a break! I know its hardly around the corner, but if anyone wants to see a bit of Aus, it will be my honor to show you around.

just got off the phone from CASA, and an FAA licence, both PPl and CPL is recognized in Australia so conversion will be easy, Basically just a check flight and a small exam on the rules that are slightly different having said that, given I already hold a recreational pilots licence that exam is likely not be be required. so that's a good start!

can anyone advise me on what the requirements are in the US for both a PPL and a CPL?

also do the hours have the be acquired in a US GA registered aircraft, or can my drifter/ motor glider hours count toward it? the drifter is registered as i said earlier the equivalent of your LSA. motor gliders are registered VH

Don't know if this is what you are looking for but here is the FAA take on it:

http://www.ppgs101.com/wp-content/uploa ... ficate.pdf

http://www.ppgs101.com/wp-content/uploa ... ficate.pdf

I am not sure if your LSA time would count towards the commercial or not.

A CFI or CFII would have to answer that.

TD

DrifterDriver wrote:... your coming back over to aus again in the next few months arnt you? we can talk it through while casting a line i think!

I should start planning a trip back to Hervey Bay. You are a great Mate and I appreciate all the flying and hospitality.

My backcountry home at Inskip Point...


Sunscreen pasted on for a week...


The tough little 4x4 Ford...

Timbo,

Start with a PPL here in the US. You should be able to get it in (2) weeks, including a check ride. With your skill I know a DPE that would pass you. Bring your logs or copies and see what the CFI/DPE will recognize as time towards a US PPL/CPL.

I am not an active CFI but, I know schools that can get you a PPL in (2) weeks, no issues, in AZ. They have many 1000's of foreign students and can assist in getting your logs recorded too.

that was my plan, ppl, come back and start acrewing hours, then head back over with hours built for cpl, if it can work that way.

TomD wrote:Don't know if this is what you are looking for but here is the FAA take on it:

http://www.ppgs101.com/wp-content/uploa ... ficate.pdf

http://www.ppgs101.com/wp-content/uploa ... ficate.pdf

I am not sure if your LSA time would count towards the commercial or not.

A CFI or CFII would have to answer that.

TD

though you where a CFII?

just read the requirments, and I may have a problem

"2. Be able to read, write, and converse fluently in English"

I can speak Australian but not sure about english?

how does this sound....

"yeah gday you fellas in the orgeon area, old mate here, is dead set joining a lefty down wind for runway 05. all hunky dory here and will be numero duo to me true blue mate baz, will follow yah down to crack open a slab, throw a few snags on the barbie few the other fair dinkum cobbers, after I go to the dunny"

DrifterDriver wrote:that was my plan, ppl, come back and start acrewing hours, then head back over with hours built for cpl, if it can work that way.

Timbo,

PDF your logs/certificates and forward them to me. It is good to have copy in a computer regardless.

I will show them to a CFI/DPE here who passes mega foreigners (mostly Japanese and Chinese). We can then get an idea of how much work is needed for a PPL. Then repeat for CPL.

Best to get all your paper worked scanned in Adobe PDF format.

Anyway, flying in Hawaii is fun too. No dirt or snow and the only seaplane is a wonderful Beaver that was used in the television show Fantasy Island. You will not learn anything about backcountry but, Hawaii has it's own mystic too. You can stay on my 37' boat in front of the Hilton while here. Not a good place for a married man being alone! But, it is all I have.

Doesnt sound to tough at all!! Hawaii was the other one I was going to ask you about, as I imagine the licencing is the same as its still US but the airfare is a 3rd of the price the offer with the boat sounds pretty peachy to!! can you instruct in Hawaii? or will I need to look into flight schools there (I would rather do it with you if possible)

Hi DD,

I am not an instructor, but can recommend these guys for getting the job done quickly (read; economically) If you talk to Joe or Eddy you will get first hand accurate information from a Designated examiner

http://www.shebleaviation.com

Call and ask for Joejoe (the owner and a DPE) Val (his wife) or Eddie Lane (their chief pilot and DPE)

If you end up using them you will be close by our area, and you'd be welcome to some wonderful backcountry shredding here. Plenty of other BCP's very close at hand as well.
Take care, Rob

DrifterDriver wrote:Doesnt sound to tough at all!! Hawaii was the other one I was going to ask you about, as I imagine the licencing is the same as its still US but the airfare is a 3rd of the price the offer with the boat sounds pretty peachy to!! can you instruct in Hawaii? or will I need to look into flight schools there (I would rather do it with you if possible)

Timbo,

Will set you up here with a PPL pretty economically. I have 1500 hours of instructor and USCG SAR flight time in the islands. Use me as an instructor. I know the DPE here too.

No charge for my instruction or the boat. But, we need to make sure our schedules do not have conflicts! I will study the "Australian" language as to better assist in teaching you Hawaiian pigeon Brah.

BTW I have surfboard from Australia here on my boat from Coolangetta!

Rob wrote:Hi DD,

I am not an instructor, but can recommend these guys for getting the job done quickly (read; economically) If you talk to Joe or Eddy you will get first hand accurate information from a Designated examiner

http://www.shebleaviation.com

Call and ask for Joejoe (the owner and a DPE) Val (his wife) or Eddie Lane (their chief pilot and DPE)

If you end up using them you will be close by our area, and you'd be welcome to some wonderful backcountry shredding here. Plenty of other BCP's very close at hand as well.
Take care, Rob

These guys will get you done fast! I did my MEI/ATP/CFII with them. The Cub on floats was down or I would have done my SES too! Joe and Joejoe known the business better than anyone.

Ted you are a truly fantastic man and we will be talking....alot! Im certainly not in a position to do anything yet, so we will have plenty of time to arrange it all, I'm long term planning here!

I just had a look at that site you sent Rob, and Ill give you an idea of the price difference between to 2 Countrys,

so there ppl costs is $9785 and then the CPL course on top of that is $5,763 coming to $15,548 which comes to roughly $16 800 Australian

to do a PPL/CPL course over here will cost between $70 - $100 000 so thats $65 000 - $92 500 US, and the reality is it usually ends up costs more than that to.