For some reason, Backcountry Pilot runs really slow for me. All my other sites seem to be o.k.. Does anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong???

Could it be weather related?

When I'm on Internet Explorer, BCP is slow for me (my wireless signal is not strong). But on AOL, BCP seams fine except the live chat don't work with AOL.

OH,
If all else fails, check the loose nut sitting in front of the computer. Strang thing's happen in the middle of the Nevada desert, especially at night!!

Speedy as can be from Reno.

Its been slow for me too, but Zane must have cranked it up, 'cause its gotten much better since this post by CU.

Nizina

This is pretty weird, but here's what happens.... At work, on a T1 line, it's great, fast and fine but at home with the same computer on Altell Wireless, it's slower than dial up. My home computer on the same Altell Wireless, is also extremely slow/same, but here's the catch, on all other web sites, everything else works great. I only have this problem when I try to click on Backcountry Pilot. How strange is that???? Same thing was still going on last night. At work now, all is great, again, on the T1 line. If I had other slow web pages, I could understand a little better, but no.

I'm wondering if it has something to do with Firefox? I know nothing about it, and use Internet Explorer.

Coyote Ugly wrote:This is pretty weird, but here's what happens.... At work, on a T1 line, it's great, fast and fine but at home with the same computer on Altell Wireless, it's slower than dial up. My home computer on the same Altell Wireless, is also extremely slow/same, but here's the catch, on all other web sites, everything else works great. I only have this problem when I try to click on Backcountry Pilot. How strange is that???? Same thing was still going on last night. At work now, all is great, again, on the T1 line. If I had other slow web pages, I could understand a little better, but no.

I'm wondering if it has something to do with Firefox? I know nothing about it, and use Internet Explorer.

I was having trouble down loading some of your sisters pictures and after changing over to Fire Fox from Internet Explorer every thing got better. Well except the weather!

I tried a trace route per Zanes suggestion.
My internet provider "roadrunner" has no clue and no level of support
for the problem that I am having with BCP. It is the only site I am having an issue with. If you are connected to the internet, they feeel thier job is complete. So if anyone figures the issue out, I wish they would share.
My connection to the site is slower than dial up.
Ki in Florida

Floatin_around wrote:I tried a trace route per Zanes suggestion.
My internet provider "roadrunner" has no clue and no level of support
for the problem that I am having with BCP. It is the only site I am having an issue with. If you are connected to the internet, they feeel thier job is complete. So if anyone figures the issue out, I wish they would share.
My connection to the site is slower than dial up.
Ki in Florida

Me too, but I just went into Internet Options, and erased all history, cookies, everything, and now it's working great. Damn Computers.....

coyote ugly wrote: At work, on a T1 line, it's great, fast and fine but at home with the same computer on Altell Wireless, it's slower than dial up

You got time to work

Pat

I tried erasing all cookies, deleting history and still the same thing.

any other ideals would be great.

This is a favorite site, but almost impossible to view anymore.

Ki

Guys, I really don't have a clue as to what could be causing the slowness for you. The way the internet is constructed is similar to a tree: A big trunk with many branches, which in turn branch out themselves.

Now imagine that the BCP server on a totally different tree. Your connection has to "hop" from the tip of your branch up the other branches to the trunk, then find the other tree and make its way out to the end of the branch the BCP server is on.

One way to find the route your connection is taking is by running what is called a Trace Route. From Windows XP, try these steps:

1) Go to Start (start button on the lower left of the desktop)
2) Choose 'Run'
3) Type: "cmd" (no quotes)
4) This should bring up a DOS prompt. Once there, type: "tracert backcountrypilot.org" (without quotes)

The results will show the series of hops required to get to BCP, and the time each hop takes. Here's the results of mine, from my almost-inlaws house in Reno:

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 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.458 ms  1.157 ms  1.098 ms
 2  172.16.0.1 (172.16.0.1)  2.005 ms  1.918 ms  2.108 ms
 3  bras3-l0.renonv.sbcglobal.net (151.164.185.196)  14.968 ms  34.136 ms  16.518 ms
 4  dist1-vlan60.renonv.sbcglobal.net (63.201.16.133)  12.777 ms  9.481 ms  9.849 ms
 5  bb2-g1-3-0.renocs.sbcglobal.net (206.13.6.211)  10.140 ms  12.613 ms  9.925 ms
 6  ex3-p6-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net (70.245.63.233)  184.669 ms  89.334 ms  210.282 ms
 7  xe-3-4.r02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.9.121)  18.978 ms  19.251 ms  19.951 ms
 8  ae-2.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.9)  20.171 ms  22.692 ms  21.557 ms
 9  as-0.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.97)  29.766 ms  29.422 ms  29.913 ms
10  po-1.r00.lsanca17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.5.242)  24.767 ms  29.205 ms *
11  xe-1-3.r00.lsanca17.us.ce.gin.ntt.net (206.183.201.162)  29.883 ms  29.395 ms  29.451 ms
12  border21.t3-1-bbnet1.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.38)  30.031 ms  29.421 ms  34.716 ms
13  newdream-8.border21.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.146)  30.267 ms  29.377 ms  49.969 ms
14  backcountrypilot.org (66.33.223.109)  29.991 ms  29.401 ms  29.901 ms

You can see the values in milliseconds at the end of the rows. Look for large values there (like greater than 500 ms) as those could be the bottleneck in your connection.

Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about it, as that section of the internet belongs to no one you can influence with your dollar.

A drastic solution would be (in Firefox) to select View > Page Style > No Style. That should turn it to (mostly) pure text, which may load faster on a slow connection.

I hope that helps. Thanks for reporting this. There are other load time diagnostic tools we can use for Firefox, but that requires some time and dedication.

O.K. I tried that, and it just said "Request timed out" on each one.

Tried Deleting cookies and all, again, and that didn't work either, but sometimes the site works perfectly, so i just don't get it...

Last night all was working great, but tonight... Man it's slow...

Like I said, though, all of my other sites seem to work just fine "all the time"...

I really like this site, and have a lot of fun on it, hope that I can get it working more consistent.

I've been using the Opera browser and have not noticed any problems.

The site works great for me most all the time. When it get's slow is when I'm getting a weak wireless internet connection (mostly at a hotel or when I'm getting a signal from one of my nieghbors ( ).

I haven't figured it out yet, but something is definitely going on. I usually can't use it at home, but works fine at work... Go figure...

Other than that, Great Web Site.........

Last night at home I even tried downloading Firefox... No difference... Still way slower than dial up...

Coyote Ugly wrote:O.K. I tried that, and it just said "Request timed out" on each one.

That's a bad sign. Did it finish all the hops? Who is your ISP?

Trying running the traceroute again, and PM me the results.

Generally a browser will only make a difference in the speed at which is processes Javascript (which runs on your client machine, not on the server.) It won't affect network speed. Like I mentioned above, the issue should be apparent in a traceroute, which will show the lag in any of the hops between internet routers, from your machine to our server. It's never a direct connection, as it piggybacks off many different segments of the physical network that comprises the Internet.

If you really want speed for script processing, try Google Chrome. In fact I recommend it for any Windows user. It's not as full featured as Firefox, but it's very lightweight and fast.

Here's my traceroute results today from my home in Portland. As you can see, it hops a few times right here in Portland, then up to Seattle, then to San Jose, then down to what I assume is a data center in Los Angeles.

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traceroute to backcountrypilot.org (66.33.223.109), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.8.1 (192.168.8.1)  1.915 ms  1.898 ms  2.800 ms
 2  73.90.144.1 (73.90.144.1)  13.232 ms  10.888 ms  11.128 ms
 3  ge-5-10-ur03.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net (68.87.216.153)  9.508 ms  9.107 ms  13.907 ms
 4  68.85.243.173 (68.85.243.173)  11.921 ms  19.159 ms  10.925 ms
 5  te-0-4-0-5-cr01.portland.or.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.90.245)  21.487 ms  12.609 ms  11.974 ms
 6  pos-0-0-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.85.205)  23.831 ms  21.214 ms  18.926 ms
 7  te-3-2.car1.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.79.104.105)  15.183 ms  16.669 ms  16.227 ms
 8  ae-31-51.ebr1.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.68.105.30)  17.886 ms  16.305 ms  51.619 ms
 9  ae-3.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.49)  43.873 ms  30.761 ms  32.466 ms
10  * ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.194)  36.963 ms  31.006 ms
11  ae-63-63.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.225)  37.396 ms  33.270 ms  35.409 ms
12  ae-2.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.10)  47.345 ms  54.657 ms  53.319 ms
13  ae-93-93.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.46)  46.291 ms  50.683 ms  54.354 ms
14  ae-11-69.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.20.3)  101.464 ms  217.444 ms  205.181 ms
15  INTERNAP-NE.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.71.140.54)  175.461 ms  158.448 ms  203.608 ms
16  border21.t4-1-bbnet2.lax.pnap.net (216.52.255.102)  43.477 ms  45.090 ms  42.969 ms
17  newdream-8.border21.lax.pnap.net (216.52.220.146)  247.023 ms  248.706 ms  199.212 ms
18  backcountrypilot.org (66.33.223.109)  41.653 ms  46.243 ms  43.039 ms