There may be a thread already...its hard to search subjects on this forum with any results that matter. Looking for any suggestions on how people usually haul extra fuel into back country strips? Im looking at carrying an extra 7-12 gallons.

lownslow79 wrote:There may be a thread already...its hard to search subjects on this forum with any results that matter. Looking for any suggestions on how people usually haul extra fuel into back country strips? Im looking at carrying an extra 7-12 gallons.

I often carry two of these.

http://www.airframesalaska.com/Liquid-C ... 5.2bag.htm

They weigh very little and consume practically no space when they are empty.

Don't carry extra fuel because my tanks hold 70gals useable but, in Canada needed to transport fuel and fill the tanks.

Jerry can (wide 5gal Scepter): $20.00 @Walmart Newport Oregon
Siphon, shaker style: $7.00 @HomeDepot Honolulu

Placard cans: "AvGas/(MoGas 91 STC) only, no ethanol" and purchase date.

https://backcountrypilot.org/community/ ... -bag-21071 Noe my disclaimer, and that others chime in saying they work fine, your call.

Anything except the EPA /OSHA compliant fuel jugs they sell nowadays! In a moment of weakness, needing to carry some diesel home for my tractor (and having forgotten to bring into town one of my ABW gas bags) I bought a 5 gallon yellow diesel specific jug from Lowes. Once home, after I got about 1 gallon of fuel out of it (which took a couple minutes) I was so pissed off I just siphoned the rest out, what a piece of crap, very poorly engineered, if the intent was something to pour fuel out of anyway. I haven't used it since, and every time I look at it I kick myself for buying it. I need to give it away to some sucker. Not only does it pour very slowly and awkwardly, it's center of gravity makes it prone to tip over very easy while transporting.

Another good source is go down to your local dirt bike shop, Honda dealer, etc., they will usually have some good containers of various types. Best gas can I ever had was a squat (low cg) round metal can with a 3" cap, a large vent (critical) and a 1 1/2" hose spout. 6 gallons, I'd pay big bucks to get another like it.

The best thing since beer in cans was fuel in plastic jugs. Plastic jugs do not wear holes in fiberglass hoppers.

Get some 'VP Racing' jugs and install a fitting in the top with a 1-2' long flexible hose (1'+diameter) in the lid. Pours fast and they work great.

vpracingfuels.com/product-category/specialty-products/containers/

courierguy wrote: Anything except the EPA /OSHA compliant fuel jugs they sell nowadays! In a moment of weakness, needing to carry some diesel home for my tractor (and having forgotten to bring into town one of my ABW gas bags) I bought a 5 gallon yellow diesel specific jug from Lowes. Once home, after I got about 1 gallon of fuel out of it (which took a couple minutes) I was so pissed off I just siphoned the rest out, what a piece of crap, very poorly engineered, if the intent was something to pour fuel out of anyway. I haven't used it since, and every time I look at it I kick myself for buying it. I need to give it away to some sucker. Not only does it pour very slowly and awkwardly, it's center of gravity makes it prone to tip over very easy while transporting.

Amen. Whoever came up with those f<edited>ed up EPA/OSHA spouts? I have spilled more fuel trying to get them to work correctly. The https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiggle_syphon shaker siphon is what I use to remove fuel or a funnel. I consider those spouts dangerous and there should be a complete product recall.

Fuel bags are the most convenient, but won't do well in any sort of upset. Steel cans are the most crash-proof and the easiest to bond while fueling. Tie them in we'll...

8GCBC wrote:

courierguy wrote: Anything except the EPA /OSHA compliant fuel jugs they sell nowadays! In a moment of weakness, needing to carry some diesel home for my tractor (and having forgotten to bring into town one of my ABW gas bags) I bought a 5 gallon yellow diesel specific jug from Lowes. Once home, after I got about 1 gallon of fuel out of it (which took a couple minutes) I was so pissed off I just siphoned the rest out, what a piece of crap, very poorly engineered, if the intent was something to pour fuel out of anyway. I haven't used it since, and every time I look at it I kick myself for buying it. I need to give it away to some sucker. Not only does it pour very slowly and awkwardly, it's center of gravity makes it prone to tip over very easy while transporting.

Amen. Whoever came up with those f<edited>ed up EPA/OSHA spouts? I have spilled more fuel trying to get them to work correctly. The https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiggle_syphon shaker siphon is what I use to remove fuel or a funnel. I consider those spouts dangerous and there should be a complete product recall.

I bought a small one for the lawn mower, 2 gals I think, when the old one cracked, and I've spilled more since starting to use it than I ever did with the old one with a plain spout. It's supposed to stop filling the lawn mower's tank when it's full--it doesn't. It's supposed to stop pouring when the spring-loaded valve closes--it doesn't. It's not supposed to leak at the junction of the spout and can--it does. However, I may be learning--the last 2 times I've used it, I haven't spilled a drop. Dumb luck, I think.

The only extra fuel I carry in the airplane is for the camp stoves, white gas (Coleman fuel), in MSR bottles. They're solid, leak proof, excellent fuel bottles. The largest they make, though, is a quart, which won't help much for an airplane's needs.

FWIW, for most recreational needs, I have a hard time justifying carrying any extra fuel. Already I want to go in pretty light, with just enough fuel to get out to a fuel source with a reasonably safe reserve. I can't think of too many places in the lower 48 where that wouldn't work. If I land with 20 gallons, I can fly for more than an hour, more than 100 miles, and still have an hour reserve. Canadian or Alaskan wilderness would be different, of course.

Cary

Sceptre makes a military grade 20L orange "jerry" can. Unless something has changed Canada approves its use in aircraft. They are tough as hell. The red jerry cans you can get at the autostores are pretty thin.

The only issue is finding the Sceptre Military cans in the USA. Maybe one of our Canadian folks could set up an across the border opportunity.

TD

I love my bushwheel bag! They changed the fill spout to a metal ball valve so it does not sick like it used to. It is so easy to throw the bag on the wing and open the valve, not more pouring fuel over the wing and yourself. I also use the six gal plastic fuel cans my buddy picked up driving through Canada. Set them on the wing and jiggle hose the fuel in. They take up same amount of space empty as they do full so I can carry 36 extra gal hunting in the cub if I don't have a passenger. With passenger usually only carry 18 extra in the back. If I ever get my wings rebuilt they will have 30 gal Atlee Dodge tanks each. On a side note the very best way I have to carry gas is in my friends big tank 185!! I have a jiggle hose that will reach the ground and it is easy to snag an extra 10 gal at a piss brake.
DENNY

Midwest Can Co 5-gal can. Throw away the crappy spout and order an “Easy Pour” spout from Amazon. Drill a 1/2” hole and pull an automotive valve stem through for a vent. Take the Shrader out and it makes a good vent.

I'l repeat myself here:

I seem to always get aircraft that carry a huge amount of fuel. That does not make the time here and there I want even more. While many posters had issues with fuel cans, I have found some that actually don't leak. I use the RotoPax, off-road ones. They come in a variety of sizes and are flat for floor loading. They come in rockingly handy when I need that extra hour of fuel to get back from someplace. They lay flat on the floor and are under 4" thick. They have multiple tie down points. They have a line of water containers I also use. You can actually stack stuff on top of them, they are quite tough.

They are also quite proud of them, a bit pricey. I look for them used, they don't wear out. Also dump that fascist CARB nozzle and order the one for water, a nozzle as it is supposed to be, fits the fuel can perfectly.

I bought three of the Airframes Alaska fuel bags this summer and have gotten some use out of them, and I've been really pleased. With the spout that Denny mentioned, moving fuel fro the bags to the tanks is a breeze and very fast. They take up no room when empty, and since space is an issue for me when hunting in the backcountry, that's a huge selling point.

These are what I use when Im on floats and I need to pack some gas
https://www.majorsurplus.com/heavy-duty ... r-bag.html

Swiss water bags. 15 bucks, buy plastic tube that fits the hole and they work great. With avgas they are solid, leakproof, and good for years of regular service, don't use with motogas. The supercub site talks about them. They are pretty popular in Alaska. I've transported 50 gallons at a time in rental cars to my float plane lots, and never leaked a drop.

Brad

Besides my 8 gallon NAUTA fuel bladder, which I use as a ferry tank, I also carry 2 ABW gasbags, I carry them folded in half, the folding occurs with the caps off. Then I stuff them behind my seatback, because there was room there, BUT I have found that once at altitude (9 or 10K, from my field el of 5400) with the caps back on, they inflate just enough from the lowered pressure to give me the perfect amount of lumbar support.

Durango Skywagon wrote:These are what I use when Im on floats and I need to pack some gas
https://www.majorsurplus.com/heavy-duty ... r-bag.html

Swiss water bags. 15 bucks, buy plastic tube that fits the hole and they work great. With avgas they are solid, leakproof, and good for years of regular service, don't use with motogas. The supercub site talks about them. They are pretty popular in Alaska. I've transported 50 gallons at a time in rental cars to my float plane lots, and never leaked a drop.

Brad

I bought one of these from the local Army Surplus outfit 10years ago. I've only used it with mogas and haven't had any trouble. The valve on them sucks and I haven't found a solution that I like so I don't use it much.

I bought one of these from the local Army Surplus outfit 10years ago. I've only used it with mogas and haven't had any trouble. The valve on them sucks and I haven't found a solution that I like so I don't use it much.

For the Swiss water bags, if you go to your hardware store theres a standard size of plastic tubing, maybe 1 1/2 inch that press fits in great. I have a 10 inch or so section, take the valve off the bag, press the tube in, and lay on the wing or pour away, its almost completely no spill.

I'll post a pic next time I'm at the hangar.

Brad

The original and still the best!

https://deutscheoptik.com/cart.php?m=se ... =Jerry+can

Though not technically EPA “legal” you can purchase new o-rings for the pour spout, and they come in several sizes. Just bought a set of four for carting Mogas out to the hangar!

I'll put in another vote for the VP racing fuel jugs with a flex hose. You can fit 6 gallons in these without overfilling them.

I ordered them from a Diesel Truck website for around 22$ each shipped with a coupon - felt like a really reasonable deal.



I have Aerocet 3500s and can fit 6 in each Aerocet Float. That means another 72 Gallons of fuel. I've never actually gone far enough to have to use 6 in each float, and you run into weight issues with that many, but it's pretty nice knowing the flexibility. I carried 6 of these with me on my Alaska Trip and they were extremely helpful and held up without issues.