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"Big Bird" is coming to Lake Shasta

We can sure use the help ... I passed their huge Semi support truck one time on a trip down I-5 to Petaluma. Wish I knew *where* on the big Lake they were going to land ~ what a sight this plane has to be.

Fires ARE ~ bad up here. We got some relief from the smoke yesterday with the wind coming up; but sadly too, that fanned the flames.

I spent a whole day last year at the RDD air base talking with Cal Fire air support pilots and crews for my book project; we owe a HUGE debt of gratitude to them for what they do...people really have no concept of the risks they take to perform their crucial job. As aviators though ~ and especially the type YOU all are ~ I know you do.

And for those of you here that do just that ~ although I know you're certainly not hanging out on your computers right now ..... thanks again. Every time one of your orange and white planes fly over our house; I'm offering up my gratitude. My friends and neighbors here too (we live less than 10 min east of the air base) also have a deeper appreciation; I educated them with more perspective so they wouldn't take you guys for granted quite so much anymore :wink:


Massive water bomber to join fight against north state blazes
By Dylan Darling ~ Redding Record Searchlight
Friday, June 27, 2008


A big bird is about to join the battle against blazes in the north state.

The Martin Mars -- a floating boat built in 1946 that was first designed to be a long-range bomber for the U.S. Navy and is now used as a water bomber -- is set to land on Lake Shasta this evening, load up with water and start dropping it on the flurry of fires still blackening the north state's national forests, said Mike Odle, spokesman for the Shasta-Trinity National Forest. Along with the massive aircraft, which is under contract with the U.S. Forest Service out of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, will come a tanker truck and a support semi to Lake Shasta. Looking at a photo of the outfit, Odle said the plane dwarfs the trucks.

"And it's landing on the lake," he said.

The bomber holds 7,200 gallons of water -- 60,000 pounds worth, enough to douse 3 to 4 acres -- Odle said, and carries enough fuel to keep flying for six hours. To reload, the plane lands and uses scoops on its fuselage to draw in water. The water is dropped on a fire after the plane, which is comparable to a Boeing 747 jumbo jet in size, swoops down to 150 to 200 feet.

A support crew also will set up at Lake Oroville to provide another place for the bomber to reload, Odle said.

He said fire managers are still figuring out how to add the Martin Mars to the mix of resources being used on the lightning-sparked fires that still dot the north state.

Although the Martin Mars has been used to fight fires in Southern California for the state, this will be the first time it is used in the north state and by the federal government, Odle said.

“We are looking at every available tool that we can use to augment our efforts,” Odle said.

On Thursday, that meant traditional, retardant-dropping air tankers as smoke yielded enough for missions to be flown after the planes had been grounded Wednesday.

“We are flying quite a bit today,” Jim Heffley, manager of the Redding air tanker base, said Thursday. Tankers flew to fires near Round Mountain, Whiskeytown and on the Lassen National Forest, he said. Smoke was still too thick to fly missions over the Lime and Iron complexes of fires near the Shasta-Trinity county lines.
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I saw on the news that Governor Schwartzenegger (sp?) declared a state of drought for California. In the past, Lake Shasta always seemed awful low when i drive by on I-5, even durin non-drought years (if there is such a thing in California). Is there enough water in there for more than one or two plane-loads? :?

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hotrod150 wrote:I saw on the news that Governor Schwartzenegger (sp?) declared a state of drought for California. In the past, Lake Shasta always seemed awful low when i drive by on I-5, even durin non-drought years (if there is such a thing in California). Is there enough water in there for more than one or two plane-loads? :?

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Been bad last year and this ... it's down 84 feet right now. Capeable of holding 4.5 million acre feet of water; at about 2.5 million at the moment.

Suppose a few "dips" by the Mars won't drain it :wink:
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A friend of mine used to work on those Mars.... so we flew up there one day when they were at Port Alberni, and got to go through the airplanes.... WOW!! That's about all I can say...WOW..... some kinda cool airplane!
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I've got a pretty good shot of the Mars on step drafting water in Sicamous, BC .... if I only knew how to post a photo here......grrrrrImage

Amazing what you can do if you read the directions a bit...... :lol:
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AKGrouch wrote:I've got a pretty good shot of the Mars on step drafting water in Sicamous, BC .... if I only knew how to post a photo here......grrrrrImage

Amazing what you can do if you read the directions a bit...... :lol:


Smart-a** pilots :wink: OK ... so maybe I gave up too quick the first time (and I apparently had a bad url :oops: )

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They had to turn around and go back to base yesterday due to a mechanical problem; supposed to be here this morning. Although it's 6 a.m. as I type this, and although we didn't get the predicted dry thunderstroms yesterday (thankfully) ... I woke up to the smoke bad again. A quick check shows both RDD and KRBL here IFR conditions. Cal Fire had planes going over us all day yesterday; sadly, I have a feeling air support is going to get grounded again ... wind is gone though, hence the smoke. And obviously in one way, that's a very good thing.
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Here's a really stunning close up shot of the Mars on short, short final

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It sure is one heck of a big bird. Kinda reminds me of a cross between a 747 and a Grumman Goose on steroids..... :shock: :)
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Speaking of 747's.... didn't Evergreen tank one of thiers up a couple years ago?? I can't remember, but it seems they had some trouble???
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