Since we're on the subject, I need some reccomendations for the Comm rating written. I ussed king for the PP and PPI ratings, tried King for the Comm software, but doesn't run on anything above windows '98. have XP pro, it runs initially then freezes. Anyway, spoke with the tech at King software who admitted that they haven't upgraded beyond the instrument software in a while. Sent it back. Sooooo...Jeppesen only sells a combined instrument/comm course. Gleim appears to only have books. Sporty's ? Not sure. Aviation Seminars ? Thoughts ? No one around here seems to do a ground school beyond PPI.

Recommend the Jeppesen,

I used Jeppensen for the private, commercial, instrument,flight instructor and ATP. (ATR back then) Back in the day when Jeppesen was just big plastic bound books. I still have all the old moldy books down in the basement. Worked great, never failed a written. Didn't need a PC....well they didn't even exist. And....back then you couldn't buy a book with all the questions and answers for the test either.

Heck my son got his private and instrument writtens passed by just memorizing all the questions and answers. Whipped out both writtens in about 45 minutes each. Scored in the high 90s on both. I think that it is a shameful practice that should be illegal. But......

Jeppesen is good stuff.

Bob

Don't mind me, I'm just old and wear Depends....

But doesn't anybody go to the airport a couple nights a week and attend Ground School anymore? With an instructor, chalkboard, and classroom kinda stuff????

Gump

GumpAir wrote:Don't mind me, I'm just old and wear Depends....

But doesn't anybody go to the airport a couple nights a week and attend Ground School anymore? With an instructor, chalkboard, and classroom kinda stuff????

Gump

I did that a few years back. Must not a worked all that well though, keep crashing into s&*t. Maybe going to sleep with Marth King is the bes . . . nah, bad thought, yuck, . . . on second thought, I love chalk boards.

GumpAir wrote:Don't mind me, I'm just old and wear Depends....

But doesn't anybody go to the airport a couple nights a week and attend Ground School anymore? With an instructor, chalkboard, and classroom kinda stuff????

Gump

They expect you to have the test certificate when you arrive :shrug:

Gump- I hear ya. I really do. Plain fact is, they just don't do that any more around here beyond the instrument rating. I guess they figure by then that if you're going for comm you go to an academy or something. We have some quality flight instructors around here but most reccomend a home study course for the written.

Same here, can't find anybody local that does a commercial ground school. I'm using the Gleim books, seems to be working out ok, used them with the instrument too, but it was with a formal ground school. I've also had Jeppeson recommended as good material.

Also, if you go to checkride.com you can buy test prep software, I used it on my instrument and it really helped alot, probably going to use it to help study for my Comm.

Yea BCP, I used the dauntless stuff for my instrument and it worked pretty well. Maybe I'll give it a shot.

When I did my CPL, I just went through webexams.com over and over, set it to show the right answer right after you answer one wrong, its free and works on smart phones too. I use it on my iphone, any down time I go through the test I am working on, typically I went through about 200+ questions a day. By the time you take the test you will probably be able to answer all the questions just by looking at the answer choices lol

I have been seriously thinking about getting a Commercial & Instrument Rating. I'm not sure why - All's I've ever flown is a cub. I enjoyed learning to fly and I had a good instructor, so I just assume that this extra training could be worth the time, money and would be good, fun experience. I've always thought of the the two ratings as one. I know they are separate ratings, but what good would be one without the other is my thought. My thoughts could be wrong. If a person wanted to get both ratings, would you work on them simultaneously or would you do each one separately, including the written and then move on to the next. If so, does it matter which rating you work on first - Commercial or Instrument??

Roger

You don't have to have an Instrument to get a Commercial, but it really limits what you can do as a Commercial Pilot, like you can't carry passengers at night for hire, or you can't carry passengers beyond a 25 mile radius, things like that. Another reason to get the Instrument first is a lot of people like me need to build 250 hrs before they can take the Commercial checkride, so I figured I might as well get the instrument while I'm building hours.

A lot of ground school kits come with both the Instrument and Commercial together, that could be why you're thinking of them as one. I thought the Instrument was about the equivalent of the PPL, still 40 hrs,about the same cost, and pretty much everything you're learning is new, it's all under the hood, etc. It also will really help with ATC communication, at least it did for me.

I really enjoyed the Instrument though, I'd say go for it if you want to get it.

The Jepp textbook for the Commercial is the best one out there. Used it for mine and my students use it for there's. Most comprehensive and best illustrations.