Dog is my Copilot wrote:contactflying wrote:John Boyd, "Do you want to be (group 2) or do (group 1)?" NineThreeKilo or JP256, you need to start a thread on LODA. I am not that familiar with that, mx, and the P40 instruction "letter" I guess. I have been talking generalities and you guys are talking about a specific incident, I think.
This may be thread drift but since it is being brought up: The LODA (Letter of deviation authority) was created as a short term workaround after the court made the ruling for limited, experimental, and primary aircraft. The LODA only applies to experimental aircraft. It has been in effect since July 12, 2021. It is a short term workaround to the mess created by this judge and ruling. I have heard the FAA needing 1-2 days to approve them and at this point is just a formality. You can either have the airplane or CFI obtain the LODA. I am going to need the LODA because I plan on flying a Glastar Sportsman with my friend who is new to tailwheels. I have zero time in the Glastar Sportsman and my friend is an airline pilot who just wants some help learning how to wheel land. There apparently is no specific prior training needed for the LODA - just the form and application.
https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificat ... mplate.pdf.
This particular court also brought up the idea that flight instruction may require a class II medical because the instructor would be receiving compensation for flying. The court deemed "flight time" as a form of compensation for those instructors not charging for their time. Hopefully the FAA will make a separate ruling on this issue with new specific language regarding this court ruling. Older retired pilots make great instructors and many can only qualify under basic medical. So the court ruling could have an impact on future training. AOPA and EAA have both gotten involved. For now you can still teach with Basic Medical and charge for instruction. Lastly, I have always assumed that the highest timed and most experienced pilot in the airplane is ultimately responsible for the safety of the flight and will be deemed PIC if there is an incident/accident.
Josh
I have personal experience with people who applied for the LODA right off the batt and are STILL waiting. I have also been told by ASIs; BOTH the CFI and the owner need a LODA, well they didn’t say needed but recommend it, they can’t even make heads or tails of this bed they shat
I wouldn’t put this on the judge, he a blunt tool who didn’t know what he was doing aviation wise, to a hammer everything looks like a nail, and he made the “safe” call to side with fellow government. This was simply the FAA having to win even when their own rules said they didn’t have a winning case, so they changed the rules.
And I agree, the amount of VERY experienced instructors who’ll just say “F it” if they now have to up their medical status is a HUGE hit to folks who want more training or to become better pilots from learning from those with the most experience, wonder if this will do anything for all the super experienced instructors at flight safety who don’t have medicals anymore.
Didn’t think it was too much of a drift seeing it’s directly related to training and safety
