hey guys, i have been reading that del aire is the only one who offers an stc for a 170 180hp conversion, do they have a web site or anything? i couldn't find one.

thanks

Tom

Harry Delliker doesn't have a website, only a landline. Del-Air is located in Porterville, Calif. I can't find his phone number at this time or I would give it to you. I can say that he is a man of his word and honorable. He stands behind his products, even if it has to be done 3000 miles away. That was my experience with him on a 172 tw conversion in which he built the wings with 30 gals extended fuel. Found a twist at station 100 and he stuck with it long distance and had it fixed up here.....can't say enough good about him......just watch talking to him on the phone, hard to get him to hang up. Nice guy though

HarryDelacur ACT Del Aire 559.784.9440 These are done from oldnotes, so the # may not be any good, but worth a shot. If I remember right,he does baggge doors also.

Good luck. That's a good conversion for the plane, might be cheapr to buy a nice one all done, if that matters.

Gary

There is another one for a IO-360 Lycoming for 180hp fuel injected. Relatively new STC. My A&P has one on his 170.

http://www.stootsaviation.com

shortfielder wrote:HarryDelacur ACT Del Aire 559.784.9440 These are done from oldnotes, so the # may not be any good, but worth a shot. If I remember right,he does baggge doors also.

Good luck. That's a good conversion for the plane, might be cheapr to buy a nice one all done, if that matters.

Gary

That is the number I have for him too.

He has a lot of STC's. Apparently does decent custom panel work too.

Richard

I had thought that IO-360's were 200 hp. If they have some that are 180hp, does that mean lower compression/auto gas?

Gary

shortfielder wrote:Richard

I had thought that IO-360's were 200 hp. If they have some that are 180hp, does that mean lower compression/auto gas?

Gary

This is the Lycoming IO-360M1B engine. As I understand it it is basically some variant of the O-360 "A" series engine with fuel injection added. Lycoming rated it at 180hp for certification purposes. Don't know if it can run auto gas (legally or not)- I think it is 8.5:1 compression though I might be mistaken.

Apparently it is a very popular engine for the Rans guys. It can be souped up to 200 horses with higher compression cylinders for non-certified applications.

I believe the IO-360 contintal was 195 or 210 hp depending on the model. the IO-360 licomings with straight valves are 180 and the ones with splayed valves are 200 the stc is likely for the strate valves.
I have a delair conversion in my 170 and am verry happy with it. 1-559-784-9440 is a current number for him.
none of the 180hp licomings are stced for mogas as far as I know.

I just looked at the stoots website looks like the STC is for the 200hp should work good.

Well I guess I will have to try again. Thought I did a reply but it seems to have disappeared.

Harry Delicker

Delair
2099 Wildcat Way
Porterville, Ca. 93257

The phone is still the same. I cannot imagine HIM ever changing it. 559-784-9110

Be prepared to spend a fair amount of time on the phone. Harry has more aviation history and information in his head than anyone else I have run into, and he LOVES to share it.

He does have a good STC for the 180hp Lyc. I have the original Bush conversion and have updated some of it to match Harry's. Especially the exhaust system.

Harry also has two STC that sort of go along with the bigger engine and that is two STCs for larger tanks. The Extended Range tanks go out one more rib on each side for 7-1/2 gals. per side. Equivalent to 175 wings. His LONG range tanks, which is what I have, adds 15 gals. per side for a total of 67 gals. This is done by simply Welding an additional tank onto the outboard end of you existing tanks. That keeps all of the "systems" the same. No additional plumbing, no wiring, no gas inside. Simple.

Harry does have an STC for center stack panel in the 170. Have to change out the yoke system.

There used to be an STC from XP-Mods that put a 210 hp Continental IO-360 in the 170.
Last I saw he is trying to sell the business. I managed to get one of his last set of 180 legs for mine.

There is a "project" version of the XP-Mods 170 in the Gold Country of Cali. If you go on the International Cessna 170 assoc. Trade Mart, you will see Blueleader has one for sale. Would be the only way I know of to get a clean set of paperwork for one. A smoother six with only 10 hp less than a 180.

Well I hope it works this time

Chris C

I looked at the contintal conversion but the AD list on that engine is as long as your arm, that and questionable parts availability soon talked me out of it. it is a nice conversion though.

ccurrie wrote: none of the 180hp licomings are stced for mogas as far as I know.

http://www.autofuelstc.com/autofuelstc/ ... gines.html

They seem to have quite a few O-360s approved.

Tim

I saw Harry Delliker (DeLaCur??) on November 11 at Porterville. He's alive and feisty as ever.

I was flying home to LA after visiting Skywagons.com Joe Stancil in Placerville to demonstrate my flap gadget STC to him. I popped in to Porterville on the way home and found Harry, because he has a ghost Taylorcraft sitting out in front of his hangar that I want to rescue and put it in the hands of a restorer.

The phone rang, Harry disappeared in the middle of our co nversation, and his shop assistant told me to go home because Harry could be on the phone the whole night! There was a Bird Dog in a fuselage jig, a 172 wing in a wing jig, airplanes strewn around his hangar, work being done, and his big sheet metal equipment was all there and oily from use. There was a 170 fuselage, I believe undergoing this 180 conversion being spoken of, sitting in the middle of his hangar.

EZFlap wrote:The phone rang, Harry disappeared in the middle of our co nversation, and his shop assistant told me to go home because Harry could be on the phone the whole night!

So I guess Harry's panic button worked...

I stopped by Del Air about 6 years ago or so to talk to Harry about a 180hp conversion of my 170. At that time I was told it would take about $37K to do the job. Later when we rebuilt the J3, I tried to buy a prop from harry but his was 1/2" short to meet specs for an A75..had to send the prop back to Harry. He had a lot of stuff in the shop for Cessnas. Outside there was a Gull Winged Stinson..first one I had ever seen. HC

wannabe wrote:Harry also has two STC that sort of go along with the bigger engine and that is two STCs for larger tanks. The Extended Range tanks go out one more rib on each side for 7-1/2 gals. per side. Equivalent to 175 wings. His LONG range tanks, which is what I have, adds 15 gals. per side for a total of 67 gals. This is done by simply Welding an additional tank onto the outboard end of you existing tanks. That keeps all of the "systems" the same. No additional plumbing, no wiring, no gas inside. Simple.

The 172 tw conversion I referred to in my first post was the bird Harry used to up the fuel capacity from 7 1/2 to 15 each side. Ended up with 67 usable in the wings and 72 total. It was this wing that I had a problem with and which Harry stood solidly behind. For anyone interested a pic of the bird is in my photo album....the black buzzard....