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Dewey Moore - Incident

Does anyone know anything about an incident yesterday w/ a Carbon Cub at Dewey Moore? Hoping for the best..... [-o<
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Hope things work out for the best. Sorry to hear about some incident.

Such just gives groups like "Wilderness Watch" more incentive to try to close these wonderful areas. I had never heard of this group until I Google'd "Dewey Moore" this morning. These folks are out to shut everything down <sigh>...

Their website: https://wildernesswatch.org/time-to-close-airstrips-in-river-of-no-return-wilderness
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Hope everyone is ok. I hate reading about wrecks on BCP.

Seems like someone from that wilderness group has been reading BCP :|
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After reading what that group had to say, it brought to mind the post on back country flying etiquette. "Touch and Go" Bagging??
"I for one do not want to be perceived as such" Granted these wilderness areas need to be preserved so that "everyone" can enjoy them, that includes pilots. We need, and do respect these areas. I want a place that I can go and camp, hike, and explore. If they close these strips down then that will be lost to all of us. As always, a few are always out to ruin it for everyone.
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Rollout incident at taxi speed. Hit some rocks while turning and folded the gear.

Please let's not post any names, N numbers, or pictures. No reason to empower the haters,
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That webpage has a photo of an upside-down Kitfox (?),
and the caption "time to close airstrips in the river of no return wilderness".
It'd be nice of someone would hack that site and substitute a photo of a capsized / wrecked kayak,
and modify the caption by substituting "waters" for airstrips.
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Barnstormer wrote:Rollout incident at taxi speed. Hit some rocks while turning and folded the gear.

Please let's not post any names, N numbers, or pictures. No reason to empower the haters,


That's good to hear. An "incident" at Dewey Moore has the potential to be pretty ugly.
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For members who've registered before the newer version of the website, please review the guidelines that all newer members are required to read:

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Specifically the "Discussion of accidents" section:

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Zzz wrote:For members who've registered before the newer version of the website, please review the guidelines that all newer members are required to read:

https://backcountrypilot.org/pre-regist ... rientation

Specifically the "Discussion of accidents" section:

Discussion of accidents

While accident discussion is a very important part of aviation safety awareness and learning, it must be handled with care and regarded with respect for those who've suffered loss. There are a few typical scenarios that determine to what extent it is appropriate to discuss accidents; here are the guidelines:

- If the accident/incident is one of our own members, please exercise the respect and discretion you'd like bestowed upon yourself in a difficult situation. Rushing to report that someone has had an accident generally is frowned upon, and forum threads to this effect may be heavily moderated. Digging for information that you're not entitled to is poor form.

- If the news stations/websites are already reporting the accident, the cat's out of the bag and discretion is no longer possible. Discuss freely but do not contribute to misinformation or wild speculation.

- Speculation and heresay do not help, and may cause the FAA to exact unnecessary investigation.

- Condemnation or villification of a pilot, alive or deceased, is extremely frowned upon. The families and loved ones of deceased pilots often turn to this community looking for answers, and they should only see positive and supportive commentary, despite circumstances.

- Accident discussion should be a learning experience but also remain as respectful as possible.


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Bummer about the incident...glad nobody was hurt. I'd be really interested to hear how the aircraft extraction is done.

I guess on the plus side, at least one airplane will be parked at Dewey More for longer than it takes to take a selfie...Probably a first for the year.
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Hammer wrote:Bummer about the incident...glad nobody was hurt. I'd be really interested to hear how the aircraft extraction is done.

I guess on the plus side, at least one airplane will be parked at Dewey More for longer than it takes to take a selfie...Probably a first for the year.

With photo shop there is no need to land at Dewey More
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Would those wilderness watch hippies prefer the state build roads out there for others to enjoy the area? Keeping the areas land locked with only fly in access keeps the wilderness secluded.
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formandfunction wrote:There will always be someone with twisted up panties no matter what you are doing. Take away the baggers? They will come after the plane campers.
Take away the planes? They will bitch about the trails.
It never freakin ends because alot of people really suck.


Without them, who would you bitch about?
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formandfunction wrote:
asa wrote:
formandfunction wrote:There will always be someone with twisted up panties no matter what you are doing. Take away the baggers? They will come after the plane campers.
Take away the planes? They will bitch about the trails.
It never freakin ends because alot of people really suck.


Without them, who would you bitch about?


The stuff that people should actually be concerned with.
If you would like a example I could start with the field next to my airport that is sprayed with agent orange every year to strip the cotton of its leaves. After decades it has worked it's way into our water supply rendering our drinking water unsafe. I know this first hand as my son was diagnosed with cancer at age 4 and our town of 25k has a massive cancer center complex.That's just one small local example of something actually important.
So I guess a few people landing planes in the middle of nowhere doesn't really strike me as an issue.


Sorry about your son, agree with your assessment regarding complaints from the NIMBY’s, and they haven’t produced agent orange (Dow General) for decades.
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I sprayed 2-4-5T on trees for pasture without excessive soil erosion. Cleared a lot of trees with dozer as well. Someone in the Army decided to buy 2-4-5T that hadn't met standards to spray on enemy jungle. Really bad idea and expensive. Thompson Hayward, makers of T, quit production of all T. The replacement was not as good. Dow made napalm. T was a hormono herbicide similar to D (2-4-D) which has been around a long time and still is.

The troops most hurt by Agent Orange (dirty T) were those who were not trained and led well in the application. The Army came clean in the end and medically supported all who claimed injury from exposure in Vietnam.

Paraquat, not T, was sprayed on cotton to defoliate. It is one of very few herbicides that are toxic. It is very toxic both by contact and inhalation. It is called by the generic name gramoxone now. It cannot be used on food crops for harvest aid.
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contactflying wrote:
The troops most hurt by Agent Orange (dirty T) were those who were not trained and led well in the application.


I watched the Vietnam documentary on netflix. They show clips of the soldiers spraying that stuff with a hose and it blowing back all over them. No respirator or safety gear of any kind.
Didn't mean to make the thread so serious.
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Glad nobody was hurt, and this particular kind of incident has happened before with more or less severity a few times at Dewey. It can be brutal some years due to drainage problems.

I don't get where the whole rest of the discussion came from really. Don't piss people off and they won't work to kick you out. It has worked more or less for 38 years now in the RONR. Non-commercial visitation numbers are dwindling on most strips, following the trend of GA in general. I'm told that the number of negative comments regarding aviation access at the USFS offices has trended downward over the years despite whatever is being posted on social media sites, and that's at least one good thing, whether it is caused by better practices or simply left the public's microscope for a while.
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