Okay starting to look more seriously at pacers. Anyone know if you could fit down hill skis inside the airplane? I can't seem to find a ski tube mod nor any extended baggage mods. Anyone have any experience?

Scooper wrote:Okay starting to look more seriously at pacers. Anyone know if you could fit down hill skis inside the airplane? I can't seem to find a ski tube mod nor any extended baggage mods. Anyone have any experience?

Atlee Dodge sells an extended baggage kit for Super Cubs. I don't think it's STCd in anything, but there have been a bunch done in AK. I'd bet a mechanic around there could get a field approval for either that or a fabricated tube.

The Atlee extended baggage may not be long enough, but you could fabricate something or maybe find a tube off the shelf, and figure out how to suspend it aft of the rear baggage bulkhead.

Again, there've been a gazillion of things like that done in Alaska. If nothing else, you may be able to come up with someone else's field approval.

MTV

If you could find some schedule 10 pvc or some other plastic pipe...say 6 to 8 inch in diameter...... I couldn’t find anything in Arkansas before flying to Ak...made a tube out of 0.40” kydex. Suspended the tube from the structure temporarily with flat nylon cord. Skis in a long sock should fit.


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I think the 22 has a deeper baggage than the 20 (???)

With the rear seat out, you may be able to fit skis diagonally so one end is at the floor of the pax side right behind their seat and the tips are at the top of the baggage compartment slanted rear wall on the pilot side.

I've had a 76" prop in there with the pax seat out. I put a moving blanket on top of the seat structure/battery box that is normally under the seat. So if it's just the pilot in the plane, you could fit pretty much any modern downhill skis in with minimal work, it just makes climbing into the pilot seat a little more difficult with the pax seat out.

A ski tube would be nice. The baggage compartment rear wall comes out really easy in mine and I think there are some cables just behind it in the center (?) I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure a tube could go thru that rear wall on either side of centerline.

Okay thanks guys, that's helpful. Always bouncing around the pacer , Stinson and 170. I think I just need one of each. I'm thinking Stinson with a ski/fishing pole tube or and Cessna 170 (180 hp) with extended baggage would be more turn key, especially since the wife and kid would be in the airplane. Looking at other posts it looks like skis fit in a 170 with extended baggage.

Without the back seat you can fit at least 188 cm skis diagonally. If I remember correctly the tips went just under the copilot seat.

Scooper wrote:Okay thanks guys, that's helpful. Always bouncing around the pacer , Stinson and 170. I think I just need one of each. I'm thinking Stinson with a ski/fishing pole tube or and Cessna 170 (180 hp) with extended baggage would be more turn key, especially since the wife and kid would be in the airplane. Looking at other posts it looks like skis fit in a 170 with extended baggage.

My 170 had the Selkirk extended baggage, and the resulting space was voluminous. Long stuff fit well. My airplane had the removeable sling rear seat, so long stuff could go under the seat if one back seat occupied, or with seat out.

These days, I’d install one Atlee Dodge folding rear seat in a 170.

MTV

Do you gain much weight with the folding seats as opposed to the sling seat?

Scooper wrote:Do you gain much weight with the folding seats as opposed to the sling seat?

No, I doubt if there'd be much difference in weight, but more to the point, the source of that sling seat STC is long gone. I dont know if you could even get the drawings to build one, let alone get the paper work.

The big down side to the sling seat was that it was "all or nothing", in other words, it went all the way across the back, whereas with the folding seats, you can put one passenger in a seat in back, and cargo forward, where the other rear seat would be.

The reason I suggested just one folding seat in these airplanes is that a 170 is really pretty much a three person airplane, with much gas. It may be possible to lighten them up enough to fill the tanks and the seats, but.....

MTV

Sure, looking at the numbers that makes sense.