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Im 7, 8, 11, 12, 20, 22. Some would say 5.
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The plane was registered to a man with a Mexican surname in Boise.
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But if the plane sunk and they can't find it how do they know all this stuff? Stolen?

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SkyTruck wrote:Somebody's knickers are in a bunch :)



I don't think smuggling drugs in any way helps general aviation or other pilots. Not sure what you mean by "rating out" but it makes it sound like your more concerned about protecting guilty drug smugglers than honest pilots?


Madpilot: WTF???
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Plane in NM lake believed to have flown from Ariz.by Associated Press (April 26th, 2011 @ 3:50pm) ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman says a plane that plunged into a northern New Mexico lake, leaving scattered debris and bundles of cocaine, appears to have departed from Arizona.

FAA spokesman Lynn Lunsford of Fort Worth, Texas, says authorities were able to isolate what they believe was the aircraft on radar and trace it back to Prescott, about 100 miles north of Phoenix.

Lunsford says no flight plan was filed, and authorities do not know who was on board and whether there were passengers as well as a pilot. He says debris that floated up identified the plane as a twin-engine Cessna 310.

The plane crashed into Heron Lake on Sunday.

State police divers have recovered only small pieces of the craft, plus body fragments and 23 bundles of cocaine.
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Zane wrote:It could also be that you're the only regular posting guy with "NM" in your username, and thus the first one people think of when NM news hits. I'd be happy that someone appreciates you company enough to joke with you.

I like to think that even the Feds can detect a little tongue in cheek on the Internet, BUT I could be wrong. :)


Zane - what is it that gives you the impression that the Feds, or other law enforcement officers, appreciate tongue in cheek humor when it comes to a serious violent crime problem?

I'm not mad, at Kevbert or sixtwoleemer, for their jokes at my expense. I did not over-react in my response. But the jokes were in poor taste, and don't reflect well on aviators, or on me personally. And my response comes down to simply, "please, stop it".

I don't want my name (even just a screen name, which can easily be linked back to me) linked with criminal activity on the internet that's all. I don't need to chill out, sixtwoleemer.

Joking about aviators in the drug business suggests to people who are in the business of tracking criminals that we aviators take it for granted, and that we think it's a joking matter. Working in two southwestern border states where drug trade violence has become a serious problem the last couple of years, and being a 22-year resident of Florida who remembers what it was like in the bad old days of the Cartagena drug cartels when Miami was known as the "wild wild west", and having had personal friends who escaped the drug war in Colombia that was portrayed in "Blow", I can tell you that most New Mexicans and Texans and Floridians don't take it as a joke. Ditto in Arizona, and in Mexico too.
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Sorry for my part nmflyguy.
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At this point I think I'll take the high road and... *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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This incident reminds me of one of the more interesting NTSB reports that I have read...

NTSB wrote:ACFT HAD BEEN OBJECT OF AN AIRBORNE PURSUIT BY U.S. CUSTOMS AT ABOUT 1830 IN THE VICINITY OF BELLE GLADE. DURING THE PURSUIT THE ACFT
DOOR & 15 BALES OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WERE OBSERVED BEING JETTISONED FROM THE ACFT. AFTER LANDING THE ACFT WAS SET ON FIRE.


http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/jeoi1uy35ity5q45bz2tqd45/P04262011120000.pdf
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The hard core cartels will set a flight up using a decoy plane about an hour or so headed in a different direction... While the feds chase that one they send the big load another way. Pilot wears a parachute.... pushes out the stuff at a predetermined spot, then parachutes out and leaves the auto pilot on....... I would not put it past them to plant human remains on board to add to the spectacle... These guys play fast and loose with human lives.. :o :( [-o< IMHO.
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Madpilot: WTF???[/quote]
Hmm. My response was directed at nmflyguy's comment about being "ratted out.". I doubt he meant it as such but saying getting ratted out is a crappy thing, in my opion is asinine. Using aviation to smuggle drugs is the crapper issue. Why should anyone protect a drug dealer/smuggler? I agree with nmflyguy that joking about someone being a crimal isn't right, but protecting criminals is worse. Don't get me wrong, I not saying we throw each other under the bus, but there illegal, and then there is criminal.
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As crappy as that may be - getting ratted out by a fellow BCP reader (or, god forbid, BCP member), that's the world we live in.

To be clear the part above is what I'm referring to. As mentioned I may be reading into it all wrong, but from the context doesn't fit.
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SOooo,,, what kind of fish are in the lake? Blow fish! and flying fish!
This gives a hole new meaning to a fishing line.
Would you go water skiing or snow skiing on that lake.
How much snow fall do they get there,,,Oh about 1000 LBS. :roll:
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172heavy wrote:SOooo,,, what kind of fish are in the lake? Blow fish! and flying fish!
This gives a hole new meaning to a fishing line.
Would you go water skiing or snow skiing on that lake.
How much snow fall do they get there,,,Oh about 1000 LBS. :roll:


They've hit bottom and are going to N/A meetings now. :shock:
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172 & Glider:
Humor is MY 'drug of choice'.....
Thank you for the 'fix'.

Well, that, & flying.....
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Reads to me like...........

#-o Everyone needs to go FLYING =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Although I did think of Gumps girls at Mina on the smell of perfumes in the aircraft. Guilty
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madpilot wrote:
nmflyguy wrote:
As crappy as that may be - getting ratted out by a fellow BCP reader (or, god forbid, BCP member), that's the world we live in.

To be clear the part above is what I'm referring to. As mentioned I may be reading into it all wrong, but from the context doesn't fit.


Mad - I (incorrectly, it seems) thought it was obvious from what I wrote and the context of the discussion that I was not talking about ratting out drug traffickers. When referring to BCP members "ratting out" fellow BCP members, I was talking about ratting pilots out on FAA flight rules violations, not drug law enforcement. FAA isn't in the drug law enforcement business.

With respect to turning in drug traffickers, it's a very fine thing to do, and I have the greatest admiration for those who do so, but that also a very risky business, as those perps don't play nice.

I don't get the drug humor, whether aviation related or not. Maybe it's a holdover from the Cheech and Chong days, or whatever style of humor is playing well with the Gen X and Gen Y folks these days. It's just not a laughing matter, and aviators should not make light of it. Too many thousands are getting killed off, and too many people - in and out of the drug trafficking business - are in fear for their lives. Doing so on an aviation board makes us look like dopes - pun intended - and part of the problem. Due in no small part to the very big role that some aviators play in making that business run.

Zane may be typing zzz's on his keyboard and thinking himself superior for it, but it's simply immature and irresponsible to make light of a deadly business.

'nuff said, now.
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nmflyguy wrote:
madpilot wrote:
nmflyguy wrote:
As crappy as that may be - getting ratted out by a fellow BCP reader (or, god forbid, BCP member), that's the world we live in.

To be clear the part above is what I'm referring to. As mentioned I may be reading into it all wrong, but from the context doesn't fit.


Mad - I (incorrectly, it seems) thought it was obvious from what I wrote and the context of the discussion that I was not talking about ratting out drug traffickers. When referring to BCP members "ratting out" fellow BCP members, I was talking about ratting pilots out on FAA flight rules violations, not drug law enforcement. FAA isn't in the drug law enforcement business.

With respect to turning in drug traffickers, it's a very fine thing to do, and I have the greatest admiration for those who do so, but that also a very risky business, as those perps don't play nice.

I don't get the drug humor, whether aviation related or not. Maybe it's a holdover from the Cheech and Chong days, or whatever style of humor is playing well with the Gen X and Gen Y folks these days. It's just not a laughing matter, and aviators should not make light of it. Too many thousands are getting killed off, and too many people - in and out of the drug trafficking business - are in fear for their lives. Doing so on an aviation board makes us look like dopes - pun intended - and part of the problem. Due in no small part to the very big role that some aviators play in making that business run.

Zane may be typing zzz's on his keyboard and thinking himself superior for it, but it's simply immature and irresponsible to make light of a deadly business.

'nuff said, now.

I getcha, thanks for the clarification
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nmflyguy wrote:Zane may be typing zzz's on his keyboard and thinking himself superior for it


I do feel superior, because I haven't made 5 posts and typed 3000 words in an uptight, self-righteous effort to convince everyone that something isn't funny. I'm saving up my party pooper credits for when I have to crack down on politics and fat chick pics.
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Zane wrote:I do feel superior, because I haven't made 5 posts and typed 3000 words in an uptight, self-righteous effort to convince everyone that something isn't funny. I'm saving up my party pooper credits for when I have to crack down on politics and fat chick pics.


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