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CFIT? Sad to see.

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Dang, this sux!! Kind of out of route from Ontario to Nampa :-k I wonder what the weather was like at the time of the crash? Looks like snow on the ground at the crash site.

My condolences to the family and friends :(
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Littlecub wrote:http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Three-die-in-Eastern-Oregon-plane-crash/0goV-Gxrt0WDjWZfXKHTsA.cspx

Bad news,
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sorry about the accident --- from picture this may be CAP 182 --see red on tail white and blue.
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Littlecub wrote:http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Three-die-in-Eastern-Oregon-plane-crash/0goV-Gxrt0WDjWZfXKHTsA.cspx

Bad news,
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sorry about the accident --- from picture this may be CAP 182 --see red on tail white and blue.


I don't think it is Bill. Reading through the comments below the news report, the posters were saying the plane was returning from the Portland area. And very sadly, the occupants supposedly attended a funeral in the Portland area earlier :( .

From one of the posters:
One of these people that died in that plane crash was my best friend. He was on his way back from a funeral in Portland. Please pray for the families.


And supposedly, the pilot left behind 6 children. Very very bad deal. Just sad :(

I'm sure we all have our own idea's what may have happened, but with all do respect I'll hold off on speculating on what happened tell more facts come in (NTSB report). But I'm sure we all have a good idea what happened. :(
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The local press here is reporting the pilot and passengers were 3 russian immigrants, the pilot was 38-year-old Andrey Pasechnikov, along with his mother and a 24 year old frend, but the plane is registered to John K. Amlin of kings road in Nampa.
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Dale Moul wrote:The local press here is reporting the pilot and passengers were 3 russian immigrants, the pilot was 38-year-old Andrey Pasechnikov, along with his mother and a 24 year old frend, but the plane is registered to John K. Amlin of kings road in Nampa.


Here's the link:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/01/31/1508861/plane-crash-kills-3-from-valley.html#

The victims were headed back to Idaho Saturday evening from a funeral in Portland, officials said.

Malheur County Sheriff's officials identified the three people who died in the crash as 38-year-old Andrey Pasechnikov, his 69-year-old mother Vera Pasechnikov, and 24-year-old Yuriy Ludan.

Initial reports indicate the Pasechnikov's lived in Nampa and Ludan lived in Boise.

The wreckage was found in rough terrain on a hillside about 10 a.m. Sunday six miles south of Adrian, Ore., and west of Oregon 201, officials said.

Andrey Pasechnikov, the pilot of the plane, and his two passengers took a single-engine Cessna 182 from Nampa to Portland, said Malheur County Undersheriff Brian Wolfe. On the way back to Nampa, the plane had stopped Saturday night to refuel in Ontario. At about 8 p.m. one of the passengers called a family member to say they were on their way back, Wolfe said.

When the plane didn’t arrive in Nampa, a family member alerted officials it was overdue, Wolfe said.

Malheur County officials began the search about 12:45 a.m. Sunday, he said.

“Throughout the night, it was thought the plane was on the Idaho side,” Wolfe said. “Most of the search took place throughout the night.”

The victims’ cell phones were tracked to a remote area in eastern Oregon.

Malheur County officials called out four paid personnel along with about 25 search-and-rescue volunteers. An airplane pilot scoured the area from the skies.

All three people inside were killed immediately, Wolfe said.

Wolfe said family notifications were still ongoing Sunday night.

The plane is registered to a Nampa resident who was not on board, Wolfe said.

The National Transportation Safety Board and Federal Aviation Administration are investigating.

FAA officials said they don’t know what time the plane crashed, but it was shortly after takeoff.

It could take months for the NTSB to release the cause, FAA officials said.



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My condolences to the families!

Six miles south of Adrian, OR? That's nowhere near the route from Ontario to Nampa! My best hypothesis for the few facts that are known so far is that he was navigating VFR, and following the headlights on the road, except he somehow locked onto the wrong road in the dark and followed the highway south instead of following the freeway southeast. That would set the plane up for CFIT about six miles south of Adrian.
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kevbert wrote:My condolences to the families!

Six miles south of Adrian, OR? That's nowhere near the route from Ontario to Nampa! My best hypothesis for the few facts that are known so far is that he was navigating VFR, and following the headlights on the road, except he somehow locked onto the wrong road in the dark and followed the highway south instead of following the freeway southeast. That would set the plane up for CFIT about six miles south of Adrian.



I'm a little puzzled too. I've flown that route at night before in pitch darkness a few times between Ontario and Caldwell. But, I used my GPS. I was almost thinking the weather was fogged in over Caldwell and the pilot was following the river down towards Homedale then east to Nampa. But, that theory may not make much since on a dark winter night.

Any idea what the weather may have been that night? Because from Ontario to Nampa, you should have absolutely no problem seeing the lights of Caldwell/Nampa from Ontario even if your only 1000agl.
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So sad and what a tradgedy for all involved. My sincere and heartfelt condolances to the families. In the hope we might all learn something from this horrible event, the preliminary accident info from the FAA follows. As has already been said, we should be careful not to speculate; we wern't there and the NSTB will make their determination based on all the facts in due time. :(

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE 3 PERSONS ON BOARD WERE
FATALLY INJURED, ALERT NOTICE ISSUED 1/30, WRECKAGE LOCATED 2 MILES FROM
ADRIAN, OR

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 3
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: KONO 0353 AUTO 00000KT 8SM OVC023 01/M01 A3001
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blackrock wrote:So sad and what a tradgedy for all involved. My sincere and heartfelt condolances to the families. In the hope we might all learn something from this horrible event, the preliminary accident info from the FAA follows. As has already been said, we should be careful not to speculate; we wern't there and the NSTB will make their determination based on all the facts in due time. :(

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE 3 PERSONS ON BOARD WERE
FATALLY INJURED, ALERT NOTICE ISSUED 1/30, WRECKAGE LOCATED 2 MILES FROM
ADRIAN, OR

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 3
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: KONO 0353 AUTO 00000KT 8SM OVC023 01/M01 A3001

Please translate the weather

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Please translate the weather


WEATHER: KONO 0353 AUTO 00000KT 8SM OVC023 01/M01 A3001

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Automated Reporting Station
00000KT - No Wind
8SM - 8 statute miles surface visibility
OVC023 - Overcast Layer at 2300 feet agl
01/M01 - Temprature 1 degree C/Dew Point Minus 1 degree C (not much spread)
A3001 - Altimeter Setting 30.01 inches HG
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They might have had fog below and with the low overcast must have been really dark. If you ended up in the overcast layer might have iced up. Really sad story.
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OVC023 - Overcast Layer at 2300 feet agl

If this was at night, he was basicly on the instruments.

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really sad weather that night was really foggy heard him leave ono and wondered to myself not a night to fly as far as position not to far out of line assuming he was flying hwy 201 he was pretty much on but that area is bad for fog this time of year .
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tcraft wrote:really sad weather that night was really foggy heard him leave ono and wondered to myself not a night to fly as far as position not to far out of line assuming he was flying hwy 201 he was pretty much on but that area is bad for fog this time of year .


I know my spelling sucks, but can sombody put in the capital letters and puctuation for me. [-o<

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blackrock wrote:As has already been said, we should be careful not to speculate; we wern't there and the NSTB will make their determination based on all the facts in due time.


To the contrary, I would prefer that people share all of their insightful speculations.

There could have been 50 ways to die that night, and the NTSB will tell me one of them. That would improve my decision making skills by 1 out of 50. If I hear a few dozen other plausible theories, it will give me many more things to consider before I launch my bird. I want all the help I can get to be a safer pilot.
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kevbert wrote:

To the contrary, I would prefer that people share all of their insightful speculations.

There could have been 50 ways to die that night, and the NTSB will tell me one of them. That would improve my decision making skills by 1 out of 50. If I hear a few dozen other plausible theories, it will give me many more things to consider before I launch my bird. I want all the help I can get to be a safer pilot.



When flying at night, fog and clouds are typically impossible to see, until you're in them, then you can't see. If you are following a road with plenty of traffic, then you can usually see the lights start to fade as they become partially fog obscured and hopefully do a 180 before you go IMC. Still, not a good place to be - - especially if no instrument rating. Sad.
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Coming back from Idaho a few years back, I was flying between layers in mid day. The layers kind of came together and my anti persperent quit working. I cannot imagine what that would be like at night.

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tcraft wrote:Really sad :cry: Weather that night was really foggy :-s Heard him leave KONO and wondered :-k to myself, not a night to fly [-X As far as position, not to far out of line (assuming he was flying hwy 201). He was pretty much on, but that area is bad for fog this time of year #-o .


I know my spelling sucks, but can sombody put in the capital letters and puctuation for me. [-o<

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I fixed it for you, Tim. I hope Tcraft don't mind I did that.
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