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Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:38 pm

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Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:33 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

How about a Murphy Moose with a Titan Engines R540?
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Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:36 am

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Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:18 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

Swing on by the Murphy Forums. The website is a bit outdated but I think you will find a fair number of Murphy aircraft are out there operating as workhorses. Mostly in Canada but they seem to be getting more popular in the US. I love my Rebel and will look to upgrade in the future to the Moose

http://www.murphybuilders.net/
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Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:40 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

Just get a Maule. There, that's out of the way.

What makes the Russian MP14 unsuitable?
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Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:03 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

I'm biased but the Bearhawk would fit your needs. You can set the gross to 2700lbs and have lots of useful. The O540 can burn E10 fuel if you ensure the fuel system is compatible, use the proper fuel lines and seals. The DeltaHawk diesel on a Bearhawk would be really awesome.
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Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:29 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

aftCG wrote:Just get a Maule. There, that's out of the way.

What makes the Russian MP14 unsuitable?


Can the MP14 burn mogas?
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Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:02 am

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

Groat wrote:.........My specs:
3 people seating (so 1+2, all big fellers, 200 lbs)
600 mile range (or abouts, not very picky about this)
+ 350 pounds of gear.
All in all, I'd be needing little shy of 1000 lbs + fuel, so around the 1500 lbs mark.
Good STOL (under 1000 feet at gross for standard atm - although I would really benefit from a 500 feet capability at that, but that's probably wishful thinking).
Ability to use either jet fuel or MoGas (has to be capable of ethanol blends) is an absolute must due to the mission. ........


How about a Jet Ranger?
Seriously though, 1500# useful, 500' takeoff at gross, AND a low-budget price tag? Pick two of the three.
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Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:06 pm

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

noodles wrote:
aftCG wrote:Just get a Maule. There, that's out of the way.

What makes the Russian MP14 unsuitable?


Can the MP14 burn mogas?

not sure, but all things Russian burn vodka, Comrade :D
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Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:40 am

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Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:02 am

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

What about a helio courier h-391b pretty sure they run mogas and fit u r mission well. Or maybe a h-295 with a turbine conversion.
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Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:18 am

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

Groat wrote:
Seriously though, 1500# useful, 500' takeoff at gross, AND a low-budget price tag? Pick two of the three.

First of all, why? Already have three examples that fit all three points reasonably well.
Secondly, nowhere in my post did I say a low-budget price tag. Those two examples I had were cheap, because they happened to be cheap.


Like I said, pick 2 out of the 3. If inexpensive is not a requirement, that makes the other two very possible.
I'd say get a C185, or pump it up a bit and go for a Pilatus Porter.
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Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:50 am

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

Bearhawk with a O-409 and install a water/ethanol/methanol injection system.http://www.airplains.com/index.php/news ... -injection You'd have around 1350 to 1400 pounds useful. If you build light...k.i.s.s Dave Robert's Bearhawk O540...three of us at 600+ pounds and nearly full fuel. About 250 feet TO. Little under 350 landing. Elevation 3200, 80F degrees.
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Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:40 am

Re: Storch Moose and Africa mission

The MP14 engine has a reputation for being tough and reliable.

Have a look here for specs: http://www.steenaero.com/products/engine_m14p.cfm
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