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FAA ADS-B Rebate

Not sure if this is the best place for this topic, but just got this notification and had not seen anything about this before.

Here is the site for more information. https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/rebate/
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Several whom I know found the hassle too much for the little benefit. You'll burn enough LL proving that it works that you'll barely break even. I had my system (KT74 tethered to 430W) installed before the program began, so take my comments with a grain of salt--I don't qualify for the rebate.

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Re: FAA ADS-B Rebate

I heard about the rebate last fall and applied earlier this year (2017).

The rebate program worked out very well for me. I got a great deal on a Garmin GTX345 and after 2 test flights submitted a rebate claim. A $500 check from the FAA showed up less than a week later. I incorporated the test flights into a fun flight, so the cost of the tests did not matter to me.

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paulk7 wrote: I incorporated the test flights into a fun flight, so the cost of the tests did not matter to me.

Paul K.


I just got into the program this week and got my number. I'm looking at the test flights the same way. Happy to go fly. Good to hear the rebate came so quickly from the gubermint.

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Re: FAA ADS-B Rebate

I also did the Garmin 345. It works like a charm. It interfaces real nice with the 430W. The first validation flight didn't take. The second flight did. About 10 days later the $500 was in my hand.

If you have trouble posting a picture or a you tube video here on BCP, you will be totally pissed off trying to work through the FAA ADS-B rebate. On the other hand if the a fore mentioned task are reasonable for you, you will get through the ADS-B stuff fine.

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Re: FAA ADS-B Rebate

OregonMaule wrote:I also did the Garmin 345. It works like a charm. It interfaces real nice with the 430W. The first validation flight didn't take. The second flight did. About 10 days later the $500 was in my hand.

If you have trouble posting a picture or a you tube video here on BCP, you will be totally pissed off trying to work through the FAA ADS-B rebate. On the other hand if the a fore mentioned task are reasonable for you, you will get through the ADS-B stuff fine.

Cheers...Rob


One thing is for absolute certain: the very least qualified webmasters create all of the FAA websites and webpages. "User friendly" is not among the criteria in the RFPs that the FAA sends out.

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Re: FAA ADS-B Rebate

I completed mine back in January. If you read the specifics of what they want you to do and your equipment is working properly, it is very easy. If however you don't read the criteria and do the maneuvering flight etc, you will be frustrated and disappointed. I too got my check in a very short amount of time.

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Mine goes in next month or so, just waiting to set the firm date before I file for the rebate reservation. It doesn't look too complicated honestly, as Chris said just follow the steps exactly, and make sure it's installed right before you go if you're worried about taking multiple flights. At most I expect to chew through $60 worth of fuel even with a re-do, so $500 back for the effort seems like a good ROI to me. I don't quite get how anyone isn't breaking even on that equation unless you're doing this on something that makes turbine noises.

I've decided to go with the Lynx NGT-9000. The price I'm getting is too great to pass up, and it fits in line with my modernization goals for the aircraft in general. Plus I've flown with them in rentals a bunch now, and they really are all that and a bag of chips. I'm also working with L-3 (the manufacturer) on a small feature update that may of high interest to this crowd, so stay tuned. :)
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Who's doing your install?

The rebate program ends in september of this year so if you are thinking about it - now might be a good time...

colopilot wrote:Mine goes in next month or so, just waiting to set the firm date before I file for the rebate reservation. It doesn't look too complicated honestly, as Chris said just follow the steps exactly, and make sure it's installed right before you go if you're worried about taking multiple flights. At most I expect to chew through $60 worth of fuel even with a re-do, so $500 back for the effort seems like a good ROI to me. I don't quite get how anyone isn't breaking even on that equation unless you're doing this on something that makes turbine noises.

I've decided to go with the Lynx NGT-9000. The price I'm getting is too great to pass up, and it fits in line with my modernization goals for the aircraft in general. Plus I've flown with them in rentals a bunch now, and they really are all that and a bag of chips. I'm also working with L-3 (the manufacturer) on a small feature update that may of high interest to this crowd, so stay tuned. :)
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soyAnarchisto wrote:Who's doing your install?

The rebate program ends in september of this year so if you are thinking about it - now might be a good time...


Local avionics guy. The rebate timing is exactly why I am trying to do it now. You only have to put in your reservation before the deadline and have 90 days from there to do the install, but I may as well get it out of the way.
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I had to wait several months for a "slot" at my avionics shop to get the ADS-B install done. Just went in this past week, and only the validation flight remains before I will get my rebate. Since my home airport is within the Mode C veil for the DFW Bravo, I should be able to complete the flight in the 30 minutes minimum time, at the cost of maybe 2-3 gallons of fuel, so call it $8-10...

Incidentally, I went with the Stratus ESG solution ($2995) plus their pass-through power and antenna cable (under $200) to connect my Stratus 2. My transponder was quite ancient (1971 install), and had given signs it was on its last legs. A UAT solution might have saved me $1000 today, but I would have just been postponing buying a new transponder. This way, I'm done and legal for 2020.

Installation cost was right at $2000. They did a very nice job with the installation, which included mounting my Stratus dock to the glare shield, and running the power/gps/ads-b antenna passthrough cable from the ESG to the Stratus through a grommeted hole in the glare shield. That way I get better GPS reception, better ADS-B traffic and ground station reception, and full-time power to my Stratus. I like the user interface, though so far I've only played with it on the ground. It shows the GPS coordinates on the screen, so I know the GPS is working, and it's receiving other traffic. Can't tell about weather until I get up to about 200 feet for line-of-sight with the ground station. Can't wait to try it in the air.
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I did the flight for the rebate yesterday. Not a big deal at all as I live under a mode C veil. I flew for just shy of an hour and called up Salt Lake Approach about half way through to get a code other than VFR and try out the new transponder. After I got home I requested the PAPR for my flight and headed out to a family function. By the time I arrived, I had an email with a passing GAIRS report which is needed for the rebate.

I had heard that they were failing people for taxiing too fast and was told to stay under 7 kts.. Here is what sucks, Big Brother FAA will now be watching everything I do and know who's doing it. Not a big reach from their previous abilities before my install but a reach nonetheless.

Rob is right, the paperwork/process really isn't that big of a deal. The rebate offsets a small portion of the upgrade cost and was worth the effort to me. YMMV.

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I not sure that everybody knows, the rebate program has been extended. A thoughtful friend let me know yesterday. I have the GTX-345R sitting on my bench ready to install, I have just been flying a bit too much to down the aircraft to do it and then get the tech up here, essentially at the end of the road, to check it and sign off the 337. It is a pitifully simple install, except on the G1000 two things make it a total PIA. First, you have to run a new ARINC audio line from the rear of the aircraft where everything is, up to the panel, along with a second power line (on the same CB, go figure). So the floor must come up and I think I mentioned removing the seats is, well, unpleasant. Then, for the system to see the 345, you have to update all the software in the airplane. The way Cessna has done the G1000, it is part of the aircraft TC, so only they can issue the software update (not Garmin), for a cool $622 with my discount. But wait there is more, since the software is part of the TC, you have to have the correct software version manual in the aircraft at all time, it's an extra $350. Lucky for me I found a PDF version and printed out a miniature copy that actually fits in the glovebox.

So I want the $500 to pay the extortion to Cessna. Which, speaking of the manual earlier, I think it is criminal that they can build an aircraft and we are required to have a POH, but there is no place to put the silly thing. The engineering fail is either the glovebox is too small or they made the manual to large.

For those of you that don't have the link, I'll post it. Now comments made before do not even begin to cover the depth of a government screwup the web page is. I think the people that did the page are "special," essentially riding the short but the the Mike Monroney Center; took me 20 or so tries to get through the process since I kept getting the following message:

"We are experiencing technical difficulties with the website and are working on a resolution as quickly as possible.
We apologize for any inconvenience; please continue to check back for when the website is available."

Be persistent and have a full cup of coffee handy. Get your reservation while slots are still available.

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/rebate/
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