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FAA extends 3rd class medicals to 5 years

http://www.aopa.org/flightplanning/articles/2008/080723medical.html

This is great, I can cancel my appt with my AME for October. It's turning out to be a good day.
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1SeventyZ wrote:http://www.aopa.org/flightplanning/articles/2008/080723medical.html

This is great, I can cancel my appt with my AME for October. It's turning out to be a good day.


You young whippersnapper! This is of no help at all for us more mature pilots :( (63)
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jmtgt wrote:Mann every one but be got a deal. My second class should extend to 24 months.

Now my question is what is the diff between 2nd and 1st class medicals?

:?:

6 months, unless something has changed, oh and I believe maybe not all of the AME's can give a class 1, I want to think they have to be special :roll:
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jmtgt wrote:As far as I know the exam is the same for every one just more frequent.


I know that a 1st class exam costs more than a 3rd class. I think it's because an electrocardiogram is required? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the hemorrhoid/prostate check actually gets performed.
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Wow, the FAA actually makes my life easier!

So if I understand this correctly -- I'm 38 now -- If I wait until the end of my 39th year to get my next physical I'll be OK until I'm almost 45? Nice!
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Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the hemorrhoid/prostate check actually gets performed.


Gee, and I thought only the IRS went there. :shock:
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jmtgt wrote:Now my question is what is the diff between 2nd and 1st class medicals?

:?:


How far you have to bend over. :shock:
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jmtgt wrote:
1SeventyZ wrote:

I know that a 1st class exam costs more than a 3rd class. I think it's because an electrocardiogram is required? .


Just talked to a 76 cpt buddy from United. 1st class over 40 years of age nothing changes. 1st class under 40 years of age you extend to every 12 months. He did say that 1st class over the thought 45 years of age will have the EKG.

So I guess my question is answered.

J


Are you talking about the amendments made today, or how it's been in the past? I found this:

CFR 14 67.111 wrote: (b) A person applying for first-class medical certification must demonstrate an absence of myocardial infarction and other clinically significant abnormality on electrocardiographic examination:

(1) At the first application after reaching the 35th birthday; and

(2) On an annual basis after reaching the 40th birthday.

(c) An electrocardiogram will satisfy a requirement of paragraph (b) of this section if it is dated no earlier than 60 days before the date of the application it is to accompany and was performed and transmitted according to acceptable standards and techniques.
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So, if your over 40, it's still every six months isn't it? At almost 50, I don't worry about under 40 anymore :D , not that I get a first class anyway.
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jmtgt wrote: Seems like only the young guys (under 40) get a benefit with today's announcement.

J

That would be the most logical. The military physicals were yearly, but they became more involved the older you got.
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It sounds like age discrimination to me.

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Oregon180,

Dream on. The moment you hit age 40, the "golden medical" goes away. So, if you were to get a new third class medical the day before you turned 40, you'd still have to get a new third class medical in 24 months. Once you go over 40, the "older" rule applies, regardless of when you got the medical done.

First class medicals generally require a resting EKG, a basically useless but expensive test. And, a64, you're correct--not all AME's can do first class medicals. For one thing, they have to be able to transmit the EKG while you're doing it to OKC via electronic connection.

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mtv wrote:So, if you were to get a new third class medical the day before you turned 40, you'd still have to get a new third class medical in 24 months. Once you go over 40, the "older" rule applies, regardless of when you got the medical done.


That's what I would have thought to, and I think you might be right. The AOPA articles explains it differently though:

AOPA Online wrote: If you get your first or third class medical the day before you turn 40, it will still be valid for one year or five years, respectively.
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Zane,

I saw that as well. That's not the way the third class medical currently works, when you turn 40. Maybe they are changing the whole process, though.

Now if they'd just change "40" to "80"..... :wink: Like that's gonna happen.

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Personally I think they should eliminate the medical requirement for PPL. Maybe limit it to single engine, with either a speed limit (200?) non-pressurized....
Just a thought. I think AOPA and possibly EAA have been trying to do this for years. From what I have read (I beleive everything I read. LOL) the statistics show very few accidents due to medical problems. Also, a guy could go in for his check-up, walk out the door and have a heart attack. What good is the medical except for the minute he was checked? Okay, I'll stop venting.

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mtv wrote:Oregon180,

Dream on. The moment you hit age 40, the "golden medical" goes away. So, if you were to get a new third class medical the day before you turned 40, you'd still have to get a new third class medical in 24 months. Once you go over 40, the "older" rule applies, regardless of when you got the medical done.

First class medicals generally require a resting EKG, a basically useless but expensive test. And, a64, you're correct--not all AME's can do first class medicals. For one thing, they have to be able to transmit the EKG while you're doing it to OKC via electronic connection.

MTV


Unless something has changed very recently, the requirement for the EKG is with the initial 1st class medical application, and with every other exam, i.e. once a year, after reaching age 40. The 1st class medical is good for only 6 months, when it reverts to a 2nd class.

With a 1st class, an EKG and a PSA, the annual medical runs over $200 these days. Tax deductability helps...
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