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flying in and out of Canada

I have been into Mexico several times and was I admit a bit nervous the first time. I remember another first time that I was really nervous but the payoff was out of this world.

Back to the subject. Would like to fly up to Canada and was wondering if there are any tricks to know. Airport of entry is the first landing spot, can you go anywhere after that like in the US.

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After the port of entry you can wander wherever, but remember file a flight plan, (its the law). You will also get a bill after you get home for using Nav Canada. Flight service is very helpful, a delight to deal with.
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Unlike the US your AOE does not have to be the closest one to your entry point, but rather can be any listed on the Canada Customs site as being an AOE so long as it is your first landing. (The flip side of this is don't forget the US is different when you return, you must report to the closest and first AOE to your flight path.)

No VFR on top.

Flight plans required for all cross country trips.

They use the ICAO flight plan format though I found that if you explain that you are a stupid American at the beginning of the call they will assist you with this if you are not familiar.

Read up on how the radio system works in Canada, it is a bit different. For example:

Class G airspace — Recommended Operating Procedures — En Route

When aircraft are manoeuvring in the vicinity of uncontrolled aerodromes (aerodrome in the term used in Canada for an uncertified airport) or cruising in Class G airspace, the lack of information on movements of other aircraft may be a hazard. To alleviate this situation, all pilots are advised that:

1. When operating in Class G airspace, they should continuously monitor frequency 126.7 MHz whenever practicable.
2. Position reports should be made over all navaids along the route of flight to the nearest station having air-to-ground communications capability. These reports should be made on frequency 126.7 MHz whenever practicable. If it is necessary to use another frequency to establish communications with the ground station, the report should also be broadcast on 126.7 MHz for the information of other aircraft in the area. The report should contain present position, track, altitude, altimeter setting in use, next position, and ETA.
3. Immediately before changing altitude, commencing an instrument approach, or departing IFR, pilots should broadcast their intentions on 126.7 MHz whenever practicable. Such broadcasts shall contain adequate information to enable other pilots to be fully aware of the position and intentions so that they can determine if there will be any conflict with their flight paths.
4. At aerodromes where a MF (mandatory frequency) has been designated, arriving pilots shall first broadcast their intentions on 126.7 MHz before changing to the MF. If conflicting IFR traffic becomes evident, this change should be delayed until the conflict is resolved. Pilots departing IFR should broadcast their intentions on 126.7 MHz, in addition to the MF, prior to takeoff; and
5. The preceding reporting requirements are considered as the minimum necessary. Pilots are encouraged to make additional reports whenever the possibility of conflicting IFR traffic is
6. suspected. An example would be reporting prior to overflying a facility where cross traffic is probable or where there is a published instrument approach procedure.



Also if you are going to be flying in rural areas you should read about community aerodrome radios - "airport radio." Other than that I found things to be pretty simple. Reading the Canada Flight Supplement starting around page A-78 is helpful.

If you are an AOPA member, then this link is great: http://www.aopa.org/members/pic/intl/canada/

particularly this part of it: http://www.aopa.org/members/files/travel/canada/

And here is a link to the Canadian AIM: http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/publi ... 1/menu.htm
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Years ago I flew into Victoria and had to return on a Sunday so the only available AOE was SeaTac. I was directed to a gate between two commercial airliners. (Should of got a picture, it was odd looking to see a 206 between two 727's) Two of my passengers needed to use the facilities and made their way to the top of the JetWalk stairs where they promptly set off the security alarms etc. As PIC I was quizzed / repremanded but it wasn't any big deal. I can't imagine what they would do post 911. ;-)

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Try the "Can-Pass" system, if it is still in place it works real nice.

It allows you to pre-qualify the people you are taking into Canada and then you can just call them on the phone when you land and get a "checkin" number and you are all done. Works real nice.

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I used the CANPASS on the way up this spring. Worked good. The only difficulty I had throughout was that I inquired prior to leaving my hangar about a folding "survival" gun. It is a very basic .22/.410 single shot. I called the morning of departure and got a Newbie on the phone. While very pleasant, she was also very un-knowledgeable as to guns. (Ironically, when I made the inquire, I was specifically transferred to her.) I was asked a number of questions, size, caliber, manufacturer, etc. Even if it was called an AK-47. The lady determined that because it's folded length was less than a certain size that it would have been placed on the Restricted list. I informed her that it and the ammunition would remain behind. (I disagreed but it's Their country and I'm a guest right?) Upon landing and calling in Abbottsford, I was told to remain in the plane until a Customs Agent arrived. This was at 4 in the afternoon and it was 85 degrees on the field. It took the agent about an hour to arrive. The first out of his mouth was where's the gun? I let him call out what bags he wanted to search. We got half way through everything and he was satisfied, stating that by the description of the gun that he would not have qualified it as restricted. The irony here is that it was "illegal" for me to have the gun entering Canada and "illegal" for me to enter Alaska without it.
Here's another one for you; Upon entering Alaska, I was told that I had to purchase my $25.00 sticker to enter. I asked what would happen if I chose not to buy it as I was a US citizen and an Alaskan resident. The Customs gal had never been asked that and didn't have an answer. I imagine Big Brother just has to have it's hand out somewhere along the line. However Jay, they (Canada) never did send me a bill for the transit and use of their air space. Must be living right.....:) All in all, it was a very positive experience and I would not hessitate to make the trip again. In fact, I may be doing it this Fall/Winter.
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You no longer are required to have a firearm in your survival equip in Alaska.
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Count your blessings. I got my bill last week $19.08 Canadian. Also got a bill for tie down at Kamloops, only stopped for fuel and customs.
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