So according to this I need "restricted radio operators permit" for me, and a "radio station license" for the plane.
We did away with this in the states. Are they going to let me into Canada without these?
http://www.aopa.org/members/pic/intl/canada/

Also I'm taking my 13 year old son. If you drive or boat into Canada you don't need a passport for the kid. If you fly you need one??

andybean wrote:So according to this I need "restricted radio operators permit" for me, and a "radio station license" for the plane.
We did away with this in the states. Are they going to let me into Canada without these?
http://www.aopa.org/members/pic/intl/canada/

Also I'm taking my 13 year old son. If you drive or boat into Canada you don't need a passport for the kid. If you fly you need one??

This is true, but I've never been asked to show it to them.
Dont know about the passport for your son.
The Canadian website should answer all of your questions.

I'd be most concerned about what I might need to get back into the US. I'd probably also have a note from my son's mom (who may or may not be your wife) acknowledging that she knows you're going to fly into Canada/the US with your son. I think you'll find the Canadian guys a bit less tense than the US guys, but most of them handle 'yes, Sir' and 'no, Sir' answers fairly well. I'd also observe that although I know I'm absolutely hilarious, crossing the border in any direction is probably not the best time to prove it (or not).

andybean wrote:So according to this I need "restricted radio operators permit" for me, and a "radio station license" for the plane.
We did away with this in the states. Are they going to let me into Canada without these?
http://www.aopa.org/members/pic/intl/canada/

Also I'm taking my 13 year old son. If you drive or boat into Canada you don't need a passport for the kid. If you fly you need one??

I have made numerous crossings both ways, and have never been asked for the radio licenses. Having said that, yes they are required, and yes, I have always had them for me and the airplanes. My philosophy is that you have no room for whining if you can't play by the rules.

In my airplane I keep an 'ARROW' folder. When I cross borders that folder gets modified to include any and all applicable documents for that mission. Even the sternest border agents become very easy to deal with , even appreciative , when they see you have your shit together....

No way would I cross a border without my child's passport in possession... Simple math imy mind...

And the poster above couldn't have said it better.... It's rarely getting out of the country that is going to be a problem, getting back in is where you are most likely to incur difficulties ...

Take care,
Rob

X3 on the passport thing. When you file your eApis passenger manifest you need everyone's passport # listed. If you don't list your son on the manifest they might start asking questions??

I've done 2 crossings in the last few months (1 wheel-1 float) & no they don't ask for either license. I have searched a lot & can't find definitively if you need a Radio Station License for the plane to go into Canada? Can someone cite where it specifically says so? The RROL is a joke, you can do it online, fill in your info, pay the FCC $60 & that's it.

Don't forget you also need a Customs Sticker from the US CBP. That's also online application & $25. (dtops.CBP.DHS.gov). You'll need the sticker number for your eApis form.

(Special thanks to Garth for the help with my 1st trip across!)

The pp is a definite yes. In 15 years of flying into Canada they have never asked to see pilots license medical or radio license. The note from mom notarized s a good idea especially if you are divorced. You will have to have pp for him coming back to us.

L-19 wrote:
I've done 2 crossings in the last few months (1 wheel-1 float) & no they don't ask for either license. I have searched a lot & can't find definitively if you need a Radio Station License for the plane to go into Canada? Can someone cite where it specifically says so?

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/hea ... rCrossing/
http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.ns ... 01775.html

I believe that the reason the border agent rarely asks for things like pilots license ( I have been asked for that one...) or radio licenses is because they are there to verify the legality of your border crossing, and not the legality of your piloting. They may or may not even be aware of ARROW, but if they were, it may go assumed you are following the rules...
Kind of like getting pulled over for a traffic violation with your dog in the truck... Not very likely the policeman is going to ask to see your dogs license or vaccination records....

On the customs sticker, it will take time to get that in the mail, as you can no longer just get them at the crossing. You can purchase, and then just give them the # upon crossing though. Same is true with the Canadian firearm registration.

Again, way easier to fill out a couple online forms/fees and cross with peace of mind than end up getting the one agent that has had a bad day and decides to follow the entire required process...

Take care, Rob