FS • 1955 Cessna 170B. TTAF 3023, SMOH 113 on Franklin 165hp engine(6A-165-B3). 8.50x6 Goodyear tires, dual-puck brakes, BAS tail pull handles and BAS seatbelts, one-piece windshield, p-ponk gearbox mod, VG’s, spin-on oil filter, custom panel, mogas STC, LED nav/landing lights, Narco Nav 122, KA134, new Icom IC-A210 comm radio. Many items new or overhauled in recent years, Interior 6-7, exterior 6. Winter wing and tail covers included, some spare parts. N-registered USA airplane. EDIT: $37,000



Edit: I've changed the ad above to reflect current situation. Annual just finished and signed off Feb, '14. Currently located outside Minneapolis at Flying Cloud Airport. More pics here: http://bit.ly/1fdDbgH

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Good Day,
Circumstances!!!!
Looks like you might be backed up against a wall!!
What is the AME charging you a month to keep, tie down and watch your bird?
Is it in a hangar? Is there a hangar available to do an annual?
Your kinda stuck until it's in annual as I don't think the FAA has any authority to issue a Ferry permit in CA. Also I don't think you can fly in CA with a US ferry permit??
Plus it will need a new sticker to get into America!!
You need to find a A@I coming down from AK this fall to do an annual and bring it on down to you.
Maybe Bill needs a good Excuse to go there and he could bring it back for you!!??
Good Luck

Yes, I saw the plane this morning in Barnstormers...been looking for a good 170B and I'm not afraid of a Franklin engine. But as was stated above, there may be issues getting it back. Seems like the thing to do is take an AI up to Ft St John, but that sounds like big $ just to check out the plane.

M6RV6 wrote:Good Day,
Circumstances!!!!
Looks like you might be backed up against a wall!!
What is the AME charging you a month to keep, tie down and watch your bird?
Is it in a hangar? Is there a hangar available to do an annual?
Your kinda stuck until it's in annual as I don't think the FAA has any authority to issue a Ferry permit in CA. Also I don't think you can fly in CA with a US ferry permit??
Plus it will need a new sticker to get into America!!
You need to find a A@I coming down from AK this fall to do an annual and bring it on down to you.
Maybe Bill needs a good Excuse to go there and he could bring it back for you!!??
Good Luck

My information is that the FAA will issue a permit for a N registered aircraft anywhere in the world and there is a process for that facilitated as usual by the FAA-certificated A&P, but the nation where the aircraft is located must recognize it as being valid for flight, and in this case Canada does through an agreement. I suppose that info could be bad I'm still in the process of looking into it.

Either way I've discounted the airplane from what I think it could bring, in case someone with access to an A&P certificate and an IA - either in their own pocket or their buddy's - would be interested, yeah it is a long shot. Then there's someone from Canada who might want to "import" it. I think I can work it out with someone for temp hangar space for work, there is even a BCP member here who lives there - though unfortunately I lost his handle in the BCP transition.

littlewheelinback wrote:Yes, I saw the plane this morning in Barnstormers...been looking for a good 170B and I'm not afraid of a Franklin engine. But as was stated above, there may be issues getting it back. Seems like the thing to do is take an AI up to Ft St John, but that sounds like big $ just to check out the plane.

I have your message i will call later tonight

That's a nice looking 170. I knew the former owner, Jim Stewart, who used to keep it at Bellingham. I have a snapshot of him flying alongside me (me in my ragwing 170) down the Skagit River valley, on the way home from the Concrete Fly-in in 2003. You should buy it & bring it back home to B'Ham, Littlewheel.

hotrod150 wrote:That's a nice looking 170. I knew the former owner, Jim Stewart, who used to keep it at Bellingham. I have a snapshot of him flying alongside me (me in my ragwing 170) down the Skagit River valley, on the way home from the Concrete Fly-in in 2003. You should buy it & bring it back home to B'Ham, Littlewheel.

Yes this is/was his plane. I have a photo of him with it on a beach somewhere around Yakatat. One year he came to visit it in Denali when I lived there. In many ways it is better now with some upgrades and a lot of new parts.

I'm still trying to catch up on messages about the plane but I'm likely to move forward with having the annual done and moving it with some help which has been offered. The price will then go back up to what I feel the plane should bring, though until that happens there is still an opportunity for a bargain.

George and flight :
Checking with my PMI to see about ferry permit to Washington state area - or port of entry . Got to more details will keep everyone advised .How about your strip or nearby airport G.T. ?

That's a hell of a bargain for somebody, and would be a great mini-adventure to wander up to Ft St John with an IA to do the annual.

Gump

That does look like a good deal. Just curious, as I'm sure others are too. What kind of performance figures do you see with the 165 Frank as opposed to the C-145/O-300 powered 170s? I bet it's a good 25mph faster than my 170.

robw56 wrote:That does look like a good deal. Just curious, as I'm sure others are too. What kind of performance figures do you see with the 165 Frank as opposed to the C-145/O-300 powered 170s? I bet it's a good 25mph faster than my 170.

It's pitched for climb now so that is where the performance is, Even with the finer pitch it still cruises a couple of knots faster than stock. After all the 170 is a dirty airplane in cruise even without a nosewheel dragging out front. Not the performance of the Lycoming or Continental 180hp conversions but still very noticeable. Keep it under 2100 lbs it will takeoff and climb - well, not like a homesick angel, but pretty darn good. At gross weight it still makes you wish for a C185 but there is more margin than with the O-300. It has become the new normal for me when I flew right seat in a friends stock 170A a few months ago I was wondering when we would ever lift off the centerline

With the stock 76x53 prop before I changed, I was seeing 110-112 knots (not MPH) at 2500rpm. With a 55 pitch cruise prop it should move pretty good. It loves mogas if you have a source.

onceAndFutr_alaskaflyer wrote:

robw56 wrote:That does look like a good deal. Just curious, as I'm sure others are too. What kind of performance figures do you see with the 165 Frank as opposed to the C-145/O-300 powered 170s? I bet it's a good 25mph faster than my 170.

It's pitched for climb now so that is where the performance is, Even with the finer pitch it still cruises a couple of knots faster than stock. After all the 170 is a dirty airplane in cruise even without a nosewheel dragging out front. Not the performance of the Lycoming or Continental 180hp conversions but still very noticeable. Keep it under 2100 lbs it will takeoff and climb - well, not like a homesick angel, but pretty darn good. At gross weight it still makes you wish for a C185 but there is more margin than with the O-300. It has become the new normal for me when I flew right seat in a friends stock 170A a few months ago I was wondering when we would ever lift off the centerline

With the stock 76x53 prop before I changed, I was seeing 110-115 knots at 2500rpm. With a 55 pitch cruise prop it should move pretty good.

One more reason to be sorry that we never flew them side-by-side out to Minchumina. Best of luck with your predicament.

-DP

robw56 wrote:That does look like a good deal. Just curious, as I'm sure others are too. What kind of performance figures do you see with the 165 Frank as opposed to the C-145/O-300 powered 170s? I bet it's a good 25mph faster than my 170.

To be fair, yours was a little faster the day you bought it

182 STOL driver wrote:George and flight :
Checking with my PMI to see about ferry permit to Washington state area - or port of entry . Got to more details will keep everyone advised .How about your strip or nearby airport G.T. ?

Avey field, or Dorthy Scott would work Bill, and I can fix you up with a hangar in Colville, 63S or you more than welcome to use mine 82WN, it's pretty full, but could open the door if it's rainin. If you use mine, i can come up with a bed and some food for ya, I can maybe find a bed for ya in Colville also, my camper is beside the hangar you were at before.
I'm in Nulato so can't help much but offer.
898-22one3 ak area code
If your that close you could do the annual on my Wilga, and condition on the Broussard!!??

Zzz wrote:

robw56 wrote:That does look like a good deal. Just curious, as I'm sure others are too. What kind of performance figures do you see with the 165 Frank as opposed to the C-145/O-300 powered 170s? I bet it's a good 25mph faster than my 170.

To be fair, yours was a little faster the day you bought it

True, I'm lucky to see 105mph now at 2550RPM. At least it gets off the ground a little quicker now.

182 STOL driver wrote:George and flight :
Checking with my PMI to see about ferry permit to Washington state area - or port of entry . Got to more details will keep everyone advised .How about your strip or nearby airport G.T. ?

FWIW Jefferson County in Port Townsend WA is an airport-of-entry with customs service, and there are a couple hangars available for doing an annual in and for storing the airplane until such time as it can be flown out again. If you're interested, I can put you in touch with the hangar owners.

I can explore finding hangar space for an annual at CYXJ, for a IA who could/would travel up there. I haven't yet broached the subject with anyone up there yet but odds would be good.

Maybe I should just buy it and save you the trouble of moving it. 2 hr flight and she'd be parked on my front lawn beside my Citabria...
David

A1Skinner wrote:Maybe I should just buy it and save you the trouble of moving it. 2 hr flight and she'd be parked on my front lawn beside my Citabria...
David

Having the plane already located in Canada, would certainly help some of the traditional logistical issues of importing. Looks like a beautiful bird!

It sure does!