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Guns and Airports

There have been a lot of threads on what gun is best to carry in the plane, but what happens when we fly into Class B Airports with our guns in the plane? I don't think that would be illegal as long as it wasn't loaded or whatever condition it needs to be in for that particular State but I could be wrong. Anyone know for sure?

The reason I ask is there was this one time I walked into a Northern Idaho County Building with my briefcase. The girl Xraying asked "What's that". I looked at the screen and there was my Glock 22 fully loaded. I can only imagine what the look on my face was :shock: . That took a lot of explaining! Luckily for me the Head of Security used to live about 4 blocks from me in Utah. Really thought I was going to get a free Hotel room that night. You got to love Idaho, but our leash just keeps getting shorter.

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The ultimate law in this county is the constitution. It says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

So, carry whatever you want. Unless, of course, you believe that laws to the contrary take precedence over the constitution. :shock:
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I have a carry permit, still easy to get here in washington. But there are restrictions: no carry in schools, or adult-only establishments (aka bars), or some government buildings. Try packing your pistol into a sheriff's office or courthouse with a metal detector- probably not a good idea. So besides restricting our right to keep & bear arms by requiring a permit, they restrict it further even for those who have permits.
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When flying GA into a Class B facility, usually you're terminating at an FBO, not a public passenger terminal. Is there a regulation that makes these FBO's different from a Class C/D facility in regard to carrying?
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I'm not sure what you mean by "facility". The airspace is class B (or whatever). The airport itself is just that, an airport. Right? I think if you try walking through the commercial terminal at even a small non-towered airport totin' your short-barrelled 12 gauge bear gun, you're gonna run into some interference from somebody. Maybe some interference if there's any TSA personnel onsite.
Unloaded, cased, low profile would be my approach. This is where takedown and folding-stock long guns come in handy. I used to live in an apartment in Los ngeles years ago, and kinda cringed whenever I had to packmy long guns back in from my rig after a shooting expedition-- lotsa eyes seeing what you have (even when cased) & where it's going to be.

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I know a guy who knows the answer but he ain't round no mo.
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Superdave wrote:I know a guy who knows the answer but he ain't round no mo.


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Charlton Heston was a noticable loss to us all. Steve
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waht ya mean he gone..... no body tells me nuthin' :roll:
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Hottshot wrote:waht ya mean he gone..... no body tells me nuthin' :roll:


You don't get them national news channels in the beautiful metropolis of Joseph? :lol: :lol:
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hotrod150 wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by "facility". The airspace is class B (or whatever). The airport itself is just that, an airport. Right? I think if you try walking through the commercial terminal at even a small non-towered airport totin' your short-barrelled 12 gauge bear gun, you're gonna run into some interference from somebody. Maybe some interference if there's any TSA personnel onsite.
Unloaded, cased, low profile would be my approach. This is where takedown and folding-stock long guns come in handy. I used to live in an apartment in Los ngeles years ago, and kinda cringed whenever I had to packmy long guns back in from my rig after a shooting expedition-- lotsa eyes seeing what you have (even when cased) & where it's going to be.

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The airspace is not relevant. You cannot carry into the secure area. On the airport side that will be outlined in red on the ramp. On the terminal side that will be anywhere inside the TSA screening area. You can carry into the terminal up to the screening area. If you open carry expect some questions but it won't be from TSA, that's not their jurisdiction. It's the province of the local cops or sheriff. Here in Montana during hunting season hundreds of people carry their cased rifles and shotguns into the terminal everyday.
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Jaerl wrote:There have been a lot of threads on what gun is best to carry in the plane, but what happens when we fly into Class B Airports with our guns in the plane?
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I had a "fire Department " inspection on my hanger several years ago and fireman said "no guns or ammo on airport property " so I put them in my airplane and locked the doors. Cop with him said "that's not good enough " so I let them out closed the door and flew off. Guns are now in safe keeping elsewhere.I can see keeping guns out of airline terminals but small general aviation pilots should be allowed to have firearms in and near there aircraft . If we had a decent Sky Marshall program prior to 9/11 would have never happened.
"Grunt" I know from Military years ago who is now training the latest Sky Marshall recruits---there on 20-40% of all domestic flights ---Terrorist guess which ones ? Special guns and Ammo allow passage thru TSA undetected . I've seen and "fired" these and they will takeout what is hit -silent but effective.
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182 STOL driver wrote: ........ Special guns and Ammo allow passage thru TSA undetected . I've seen and "fired" these and they will takeout what is hit -silent but effective.


Care to elaborate? Polymer & ceramic are great for some parts, but I think you pretty much need steel or similar for the barrel, which will show up on detectors. Unless these are some sort of spring-fired projectiles?

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Bonanza Man wrote:....If you open carry expect some questions but it won't be from TSA, that's not their jurisdiction. ....


Since when did that stop anyone, esp when they have a badge? If they think somethjing wierd is going on, they're gonna act on it- right or wrong. We had a cop try to impound an airplane after it landed gear-up at our airport a few years ago--since when is that under the jurisdiction of the county sheriff? Tried to explain that to him and he got mad & threatened to take somebody to jail.

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182 STOL driver wrote: ........ Special guns and Ammo allow passage thru TSA undetected . I've seen and "fired" these and they will takeout what is hit -silent but effective.


Care to elaborate? Polymer & ceramic are great for some parts, but I think you pretty much need steel or similar for the barrel, which will show up on detectors. Unless these are some sort of spring-fired projectiles?

Eric


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