Howdy folks,

Long story short, we are interested in purchasing a property on a private strip in Idaho. Keeping the location out until it is a certainty.

The property has an unfinished pole-barn hangar, roughly 40x40. The hangar structure is complete but what needs to be completed is the floor (dirt now... I would like concrete) and the hangar door. The floor is easy enough, but wondering if anyone has any recommendations on companies in the area that could build a hangar door on an existing hangar. I don't have a strong preference regarding bi-fold, swinging, rolling, etc. and frankly am not sure what the hangar structure itself can support. Original builder has passed and I don't know what the original plan for a door was. Anyway if you have any recommendations or advice please feel free to PM me or reply.

I'm assuming you have electricity. If so I can highly recommend Higher Power Doors. I had three of them (70', 50', 40') installed on the hangar I had built in Texas and have one ordered for my pole barn hangar here in Alaska. They don't require any additional support structure for the door and its mechanism (meaning it is designed to be free standing). Price is very comparable to the other doors but a far superior product.

https://vimeo.com/71430508

https://www.hpdoors.com

Thanks that is very helpful. Yes we would have electricity so no issues there.



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Hi , Just finish my hangar construction 2 days ago (Quebec, canada) . My hangar door is a wayne dalton ts 200 ,38x10. 6300$ usd all include. Very happy.

Interesting, I didn't know Wayne Dalton made a door that large.

I think max width is 40’ for the ts 200.

Get the Higher Power door, that thing is slick, and their ad sure shows off their product perfectly! Ask around your area for a good competent all around builder, one who does concrete work, carpentry, welds, and has some heavy equipment. Someone like me actually, but I'm not looking for work. Point being, you don't need a specialist in hangar doors, you just need the right well rounded, been there done that type of construction worker with the proper attitude. Your project would appeal to the right guy, something different for a change. Installing that door, or any door, assuming it came with basic instructions and requirements, isn't rocket science. Square, level, and plumb is the key.

g2omer, I like the oversize garage door idea. Was the $6,300 for just the door or for the door, an opener and installation? I just put up a storage building and was going to put a bifold on one end to use as a hangar but gave up on it when the door was $8300 plus $3000 for a garage door company to install it. My pole barn builder did not want to do the door. With the option of a door like you used it would have worked for me. I would be interested in how it works out for you this winter, I'll ask in the spring.

Tim

FYI I got a ballpark quote from Higher Power Doors, looks like around $10k plus install cost, which I would guess maybe a few thousand. Looks like a great door. It does require a 240v 30A circuit as well so maybe some additional electrical work needed also.

Oversize garage door is intriguing as well, while i am sure it is not as nice as the HPD, if it keeps the weather out at half the price that would pay for the concrete floor i will also need.

How does that wayne dalton door open? Multiple conventional garage door openers in parallel? Assuming it only needs a 120v 15 or 20 amp circuit?


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bat443 wrote:g2omer, I like the oversize garage door idea. Was the $6,300 for just the door or for the door, an opener and installation? I just put up a storage building and was going to put a bifold on one end to use as a hangar but gave up on it when the door was $8300 plus $3000 for a garage door company to install it. My pole barn builder did not want to do the door. With the option of a door like you used it would have worked for me. I would be interested in how it works out for you this winter, I'll ask in the spring


Tim

The price (6300 usd) was for door+installation+manual opener.
8300$ canadian dollar = 6300 usd $.
Many of this door have been tested in hard winter conditions, i will give you an up date after the winter !
Opening the door with the manual opener is very easy, may be 20 seconds.
I checked all option before to choose the door, hydraulic door was well over 12000$usd and bifold 11000$usd.
Francois

The big awning effect when open of the top hinged doors is a real plus. As is no loss of height: with a sectional if you want a 10' high door you better have a 12' ceiling. I'm sure HP could spec you out a 120 volt 15 amp pump if the need for a 30 amp/240 is a deal breaker, it would just take longer to open of course but still work as well. The big advantage of a bifold or sectional door, their only advantage, is not being concerned about a obstruction in front when opening. I NEVER park anything within the arc of my HydroSwings! The HP doors sure seem to the best, doubtful though they are the least expensive.

g2omer, thank you, Tim

How does that wayne dalton door open? Multiple conventional garage door openers in parallel? Assuming it only needs a 120v 15 or 20 amp circuit?


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I will put a video when i will have time. It’s totally manual, very easy to open.

Francois

Voilà !!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... 3fuh0iWlfM

Francois

On all three of our buildings my dad built the doors from scratch... one bi fold, one tip out, and one stacker... the bi food and tip out are electric cable driven and both have their quirks but work just fine... less than a grand in material for each... the stack door is non powered.. runs on bearing “trucks” on an imbedded track (angle iron) in the concrete... this is the door we have on our infamous carousel hanger with the 52 foot diameter rotating floor... also has about a grand or so in material... this door works real slick but we also don’t get a lot of snow during the winter.. if there is more than around 3 inches would have to shovel it out of the way to open the door...

Brian


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Thank you for the video Francois. This is going to cost me money next spring when I have the builder come back and add on my building .

Tim

I contacted Merrill concerning a hangar project I have in design phase in Idaho. He’s very experienced and has been extremely generous sharing his knowledge.

https://supreme-door.com/

Merrill Stulken
Supreme Hydraulic Door
Revilla 3M LLC

360.5209544 c
360.245.3989 h/o

I have built two in the last few years.

Mine is a bifold with counterweight and 12v winch. 5 lifting points and a manual boat winch backup that I used until I installed the 12v system. Works great and I am happy, but I think it took longer to build than the hangar.

I just finished one for a friend that is based on a kit available. One piece door that lifts from the mid height point. The top comes in on five curved tracks while mid point follows a roller on the side of the opening to the top, so that the door ends up nearly horizontal with half inside the building. The plans called for 2x4 construction, but we used steel studs. Counterweight and boat winch open it. I am not very impressed with either the kit or the choice of construction. Would not recommend.

Both cost less than a grand in materials.

If snow is not an issue I think a four door (1/2 width two piece outward folding door with regular hinges on the side posts.) is really the easiest to build, with a track on top, and if you have a concrete apron wheels on the bottom. Several on our airport and they are simple and sturdy.

So far, the only doors that preserve the entire ceiling height of the hangar, are the top hinged/Hydro Swing types. But man I sure like seeing all the other styles and ideas! I especially like seeing home brewed one offs when out flying somewhere. In my case, going top hinged let me built my entire shop 24" lower then if I had used any other type, and it's still 14' high, I really didn't want to go 16' just to be able to get my crane in there a few times a year. My hangar ceiling is 10', with another HydroSwing, which gives me more then enough room for my plane, as planned. But, since I have lately taken to storing my mini excavator on it's trailer in the hangar, I have a renewed appreciation for preserving that height, as it clears by about 1.5".

No snow: I'd go with a bifold tracked type, and could get it done for about 1K I'd bet, One other thing about the top hinged type, the harder the wind blows on them, the more they seal up, a sectional can loosen, just a hair and then let wind driven snow in. I get hammered up here during winter storms, directly exposed to 30+ gusts, and by the time I tighten up my sectional garage doors enough to not leak, they are too hard to open, most places are more sheltered then my location though so probably not a big deal. I heat my shop so want it tighter then most unheated hangars.

Barnstormer wrote:I'm assuming you have electricity. If so I can highly recommend Higher Power Doors. I had three of them (70', 50', 40') installed on the hangar I had built in Texas and have one ordered for my pole barn hangar here in Alaska. They don't require any additional support structure for the door and its mechanism (meaning it is designed to be free standing). Price is very comparable to the other doors but a far superior product.

https://vimeo.com/71430508

https://www.hpdoors.com

How do they deal the edges Phil? I like the idea of these doors, but I'm going to be pretty wide open and facing west with the hangar I'm building. I need it to seal very well. I also like a door that gives me as much clearance as possible, so like Tom I like the hydroswings...

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