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Helicross

This looks like a very convincing way to end up a smoldering pile. A64, is this how you flew 'em?

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Cool. But can he pick up 20000 pounds on the end of a 350 foot line and place on top of a mountain peak?
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Weird,

He's by himself. Couldn't find anybody that wanted to fly with him ??? ;-)
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I thought the whole point of helicopters was to be able to fly into places like this without having to manuever like this. Maybe the transmission is stuck in "D." :)

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I like when he drags the skids at high speed.
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As long as we're sharing things that shouldn't be done in a helo:

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I'm hoping that sequence was as carefully choreographed as a movie car chase scene 'cuz if it was spur-of-the-moment stuff, I'm gonna have to add it to my ever growing list of things I will NEVER be able to do. I'll put it right above my entry for back flips on snowmobiles.

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Re: Helicross

1SeventyZ wrote:This looks like a very convincing way to end up a smoldering pile. A64, is this how you flew 'em?

Back in the day, yes. He isn't doing anything remarkable really. Yes he should add a little altitude, but if this is who I think it is, this is really a tame Demo. There is or was a German Army Sargent that would end his aerial demonstrations by coming to a very high hover and face the crowd. He would dip the nose of the aircraft with forward cyclic, grab an ass load of collective and put the cyclic in his stomach and make the old BO do a back flip from a hover.
We had this game at Ft. Hood years ago. ( I was in 3-6 Cav and we were the first fielded with Apaches, so the rules were kind of loose back then) The game consisted of chasing Jack Rabbits at night under night vision system. If you were good, the rabbit couldn't get away from you, but you had to stay quite close to it or it would hunker down and try to hide. You could chase it until it fell over dead. I expected it would just tire out and quit, but it would actually run itself to death. Land, get out and put it in the helmet bag and go find another.
We would also practice ACM or air combat maneuvering. There has always been a restriction from aerobatic flight in the Army AR 95-1, but our commander didn't view ACM as aerobatic flight. Any helicopter is good for only two turns, then you are down to an airspeed that you are abusing the hell out of the tail rotor to turn. Interestingly the AH-64a had enough power if at 15,000 lbs gross weight to have a 5,000 ft. per min rate of climb at 80 kts, but didn't have enough power to maintain a 60 degree turn at 120 kts (cruise speed) helicopters bleed an enormous amount of speed in a hard turn.
The only thing I saw this BO do that might have been hard for an Apache was the neg. G pushover. The Apache had a fully articulated main rotor where the BO had a rigid rotor. In a hard neg. G push over the Apache main rotor would "rub" the canopy. This is the reason an Apache was limited to -1.5 G's, but that could be exceeded if you eased into it. neg. G's are uncomfortable and the average old Cobra driver would absolutely break out into hives if you put them in neg. G. In a semi-rigid rotor system, neg. G wasn't survivable, it resulted in mast "bumping".
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Kenny Chapman wrote:Cool. But can he pick up 20000 pounds on the end of a 350 foot line and place on top of a mountain peak?


Of course not Kenny, but not many pilots can do what you guys do in a Crane anyway! :shock: Especially with a tank 8)

Are you going to be in CA this season?

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Hoping to be in the U.S. this summer. Still waiting on the FS to award the contracts so it's back to Greece for June anyway. Say hello to all the folks at O22 for me.
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Will do Kenny,

I am in T-80 in Hollister this year, I am sure we will end up on the same incident, and do some damage. By the time we call you its too late, we let it get away, :lol: :roll:

Greece again huh, tough gig. 8)
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