I work at a charter school and it's open to unique educational opportunities. I've done a little google searching but I was wondering if anyone has ideas, examples, programs, etc they could share.
Thanks
High School Aviation Curiculum
Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:42 pm
Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:17 pm
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I teach an Aviation Science at Service High School in Anchorage. It is basically a Private Pilot Ground school, and I am using Rod Machado's Private Pilot Handbook as my textbook. I used Jeppesen's book for years, but find Machado's much easier for high school age kids to read and understand.
Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:38 pm
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After I posted my thoughts went towards that route. How's the turn out? I imagine it's an elective course but is there good interest? Being in Alaska you have a little different population than here in California. With that being said I have pretty good participation in my after school aviation club.
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the reply.
Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:43 pm
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I think a charter school requires non traditional approaches to teaching. Here is one but requires a lot of outside assistance.
http://www.buildaplane.org/PDF/press/Al ... roject.pdf
http://www.buildaplane.org/PDF/press/Al ... roject.pdf
Lynn Sanderson (Dirtstrip) passed away from natural causes in May 2013. He was a great contributor and will be missed dearly.
Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:05 pm
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Our charter emphasizes an inquiry approach which is really a way all schools should just good o'l hands on.
The PDF is amazing. To do something like like would be challenging and amazing.
The PDF is amazing. To do something like like would be challenging and amazing.
Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:01 am
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Titus577, IMHO consider a model airplane program as a first-step startup. The kids can learn to work with their hands, learn what all the parts of an airplane are for, and learn lessons that carry over 100% to full-scale aircraft. The kids can also fly what they build, become test pilots and problem solvers (and repair experts!).
Here in the San Fernando Valley we have a guy who has set up a lot of school programs and taught model building for many years. He owned the very last of the "old time" hobby shops, and now works part time at another hobby shop. He founded the Black Sheep Squadron, one of the top model airplane clubs in the country which has many national champions. This guy can be brought in as a consultant to set up your program, or you can simply ask him for advice on how you should do it. I'll be happy to put you in touch with him on request.
You can "Sell" the idea to your school on the fact that all of the greatest aero engineers in history from the Wright Bros. to Burt Rutan, and 99% of everyone in between, started as model builders. The majority of the greatest pilots in history started that way too.
Another reason IMHO that this is the way to go is that kids will learn hands-on skills that are going the way of the dinosaur. Measurements, proper fitting of parts together, glue joints, sanding, carving, visualizing how parts go together, understanding plans and blueprints, use of tools... all that stuff is becoming a rare skill set in today's kids. So even if your students do not go into aviation on a lifelong level, the skills and abilities they learn will serve them elsewhere.
Most importantly, you can "sell" the school on the idea that the model building can be a test case and learning experience for the teachers, toward considering an eventual airplane building program like Project Schoolflight as previously mentioned.
For $20 or $30 in materials per student, they can build and fly two or three models, from a basic balsa glider to a tissue covered rubber band powered plane. I have a good friend who is a model airplane mfg. and he offered a basic school balsa glider kit for kids that cost a dollar (it's probably $2 these days). I will be happy to help you follow up on any/all of this if you like.
Here in the San Fernando Valley we have a guy who has set up a lot of school programs and taught model building for many years. He owned the very last of the "old time" hobby shops, and now works part time at another hobby shop. He founded the Black Sheep Squadron, one of the top model airplane clubs in the country which has many national champions. This guy can be brought in as a consultant to set up your program, or you can simply ask him for advice on how you should do it. I'll be happy to put you in touch with him on request.
You can "Sell" the idea to your school on the fact that all of the greatest aero engineers in history from the Wright Bros. to Burt Rutan, and 99% of everyone in between, started as model builders. The majority of the greatest pilots in history started that way too.
Another reason IMHO that this is the way to go is that kids will learn hands-on skills that are going the way of the dinosaur. Measurements, proper fitting of parts together, glue joints, sanding, carving, visualizing how parts go together, understanding plans and blueprints, use of tools... all that stuff is becoming a rare skill set in today's kids. So even if your students do not go into aviation on a lifelong level, the skills and abilities they learn will serve them elsewhere.
Most importantly, you can "sell" the school on the idea that the model building can be a test case and learning experience for the teachers, toward considering an eventual airplane building program like Project Schoolflight as previously mentioned.
For $20 or $30 in materials per student, they can build and fly two or three models, from a basic balsa glider to a tissue covered rubber band powered plane. I have a good friend who is a model airplane mfg. and he offered a basic school balsa glider kit for kids that cost a dollar (it's probably $2 these days). I will be happy to help you follow up on any/all of this if you like.
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Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:25 pm
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Yeah the build a plane route is way out of my league. I would need to partner with an EAA group or some guys who know what they are doing. This would be the ultimate destination and a way to get me a plane 
I really like the model route. That's what I'm doing with the club right now. An almost ready to fly electric glider. In a daily classroom setting we could do so much more. If there is enough interest at my school I can see this working. Aviation applies all the types of math and science our students are learning. As you mentioned so many people got their start in aviation or other related fields from models. When I was in jr. High I started with rc planes.
If this gains some momentum I will most definitely contact you about your leads.
Thanks for the replies and direction.
I really like the model route. That's what I'm doing with the club right now. An almost ready to fly electric glider. In a daily classroom setting we could do so much more. If there is enough interest at my school I can see this working. Aviation applies all the types of math and science our students are learning. As you mentioned so many people got their start in aviation or other related fields from models. When I was in jr. High I started with rc planes.
If this gains some momentum I will most definitely contact you about your leads.
Thanks for the replies and direction.
Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:04 pm
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Years ago, my wife contacted Beech and Cessna and they both sent her some really nice materials designed for a classroom. They were more high school age stuff, but very professionally done. She was teaching younger kids at the time, but I was pretty impressed with the materials.
If I were you, I'd make a few phone calls/emails to the major manufacturers and see if they still distribute anything like that.
There are a couple of web sites that are great for learning as well: http://www.av8n.com/how/ and http://www.luizmonteiro.com/ and here's a link to NASA's web site: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/education/p ... index.html There's a lot of non aviation stuff there, but if you poke around a bit, you'll find a good bit of aviation learning materials there as well.
And, there are a dozen more on the internet that provide LOTS of great stuff for FREE.
MTV
If I were you, I'd make a few phone calls/emails to the major manufacturers and see if they still distribute anything like that.
There are a couple of web sites that are great for learning as well: http://www.av8n.com/how/ and http://www.luizmonteiro.com/ and here's a link to NASA's web site: http://www.nasa.gov/offices/education/p ... index.html There's a lot of non aviation stuff there, but if you poke around a bit, you'll find a good bit of aviation learning materials there as well.
And, there are a dozen more on the internet that provide LOTS of great stuff for FREE.
MTV
Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:25 pm
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This topic really brings back memories since I took the Aviation Science class in the 10th grade at Service High School in 1977. Many things have changed since then except for my love of aviation!
Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:59 pm
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I posed the idea to my school and a couple of the things they came back with was about credentialing. The other was to see a syllabus examples. Dhdriver would you be willing to share your syllabus as an example?
Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:06 pm
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My Aviation Science class is eligible for either elective or science credit, and because of the science credit the rigor is pretty high. I tell my students on the first day of class that if they are taking it for an "easy" science credit that they are in the wrong class. As for credentials, if you are going to recommend students for the Private Pilot written exam you will need to get your Certified Ground Instructor ticket. As a certified educator you will only need to take the aviation knowledge part of the CGI exam and not the learning theory exam. I'll get you a copy of my curriculum tomorrow when I get to work.
Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:03 am
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dhdriver wrote: As for credentials, if you are going to recommend students for the Private Pilot written exam you will need to get your Certified Ground Instructor ticket. As a certified educator you will only need to take the aviation knowledge part of the CGI exam and not the learning theory exam.
To avoid having to take the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) knowledge exam based on teacher certification, here's the rule:
(2) Holds a teacher's certificate issued by a State, county, city, or municipality that authorizes the person to teach at an educational level of the 7th grade or higher;
MTV
Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:35 am
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Clover Park Tech.High School- Tacoma ,Washington Got to go there in early 1960's for 1 semester (courtesy of my boss) > then back to work in Walla Walla,Wash. I met lots of pilots and A&P's that had completed there studies there .
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:53 am
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mtv wrote:
To avoid having to take the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) knowledge exam based on teacher certification, here's the rule:
(2) Holds a teacher's certificate issued by a State, county, city, or municipality that authorizes the person to teach at an educational level of the 7th grade or higher;
MTV
Well I teach 7th grade but with a multiple subject credential so I wonder if I would qualify. Is there a website or someone I could talk/email and provide my specific type of credential and see if it qualifies?
Thanks for all the information!
Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:12 am
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Titus577, I have contacts at our local airport for two or three very high quality licensed ground instructors. So if your program would benefit by having someone who is at the licensed professional level, let me know. If your school has a decent size gymnasium, you can set up competitive events, participate in the Science Olympiad.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:21 pm
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dhdriver wrote:My Aviation Science class is eligible for either elective or science credit, and because of the science credit the rigor is pretty high. I tell my students on the first day of class that if they are taking it for an "easy" science credit that they are in the wrong class. As for credentials, if you are going to recommend students for the Private Pilot written exam you will need to get your Certified Ground Instructor ticket. As a certified educator you will only need to take the aviation knowledge part of the CGI exam and not the learning theory exam. I'll get you a copy of my curriculum tomorrow when I get to work.
Do you think I could get that syllubus before the end of the week? No worries if its later. Thanks and I greatly appreciate all your support.
Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:28 pm
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Titus577 wrote:mtv wrote:
To avoid having to take the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) knowledge exam based on teacher certification, here's the rule:
(2) Holds a teacher's certificate issued by a State, county, city, or municipality that authorizes the person to teach at an educational level of the 7th grade or higher;
MTV
Well I teach 7th grade but with a multiple subject credential so I wonder if I would qualify. Is there a website or someone I could talk/email and provide my specific type of credential and see if it qualifies?
Thanks for all the information!
If you have a teaching certificate, and that certificate permits you to teach at the 7th grade level, which it obviously does...you won't have to take the FOI knowledge test.
To acquire a Ground Instructor Certificate, however, you will STILL have to take and pass the Flight/Ground Instructor Knowledge exam. Your teaching certificate just allows to to skip the one test.
MTV
Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 pm
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mtv wrote:Titus577 wrote:mtv wrote:
To avoid having to take the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) knowledge exam based on teacher certification, here's the rule:
(2) Holds a teacher's certificate issued by a State, county, city, or municipality that authorizes the person to teach at an educational level of the 7th grade or higher;
MTV
Well I teach 7th grade but with a multiple subject credential so I wonder if I would qualify. Is there a website or someone I could talk/email and provide my specific type of credential and see if it qualifies?
Thanks for all the information!
I guess the question now would be the basic or the advanced certificate. My brief research seems to show that the advance isn't much more detailed than the basic. Any thoughts.
If you have a teaching certificate, and that certificate permits you to teach at the 7th grade level, which it obviously does...you won't have to take the FOI knowledge test.
To acquire a Ground Instructor Certificate, however, you will STILL have to take and pass the Flight/Ground Instructor Knowledge exam. Your teaching certificate just allows to to skip the one test.
MTV
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