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I wonder what the story behind that cessna takeoff was? Was he cleared to takeoff and that unit got in the way?
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58Skylane wrote:Just don't do what this guy did #-]]



Not sure that would even be possible in Grant County or most of the other Eastern WA, OR and ID places where one might choose to land. When house shopping I heard a lot of descriptions like "the nearest neighbor was 6 miles up the road, but he passed on and his house blew over a few years ago"

It is vacant out there. I rode my motorcycle on the dirtroads last week for 6 hours and saw 3 other people.
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I scoped out the highway I would land on and cattle guard needed to take down and get through to be off the highway but there is a post in my way and I would not be able to get off the right-of-way. I guess that idea is gone. I can still land on the driveway as long as I don't put a wheel in the bar-ditch. The driveway is 17 feet wide so getting square is VERY important. I guess I will have to polish up a little.

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patrol guy wrote:Something to keep in mind about highway landings:

Back when I was a kayaker I would fly to West Virginia a fair amount and always kept I-77 close by in case of an emergency.

While driving this one time, my wife was driving and I sat back counted the wire crossings (a group of wires was counted as one crossing). On that 150 miles of interstate there were enough wire crossings to average about every 4500 feet (less then every mile or average airport).



I've noticed that too. There's a few roads I'd like to land on but there's always one too many wires or no place to park.
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For the record, Joshua and I did not land my C182 on a highway today. No further comment.
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joshuajayg wrote:I scoped out the highway I would land on and cattle guard needed to take down and get through to be off the highway but there is a post in my way and I would not be able to get off the right-of-way. I guess that idea is gone. I can still land on the driveway as long as I don't put a wheel in the bar-ditch. The driveway is 17 feet wide so getting square is VERY important. I guess I will have to polish up a little.

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Post X saw = right of way :D Post what post :?:

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I heard about a guy once who landed by the big Little America truck stop in Wyoming, and while he was getting fuel (he had to walk back and forth to the pumps carrying jugs) a state trooper pulled over a trucker and started writing him up. This put the pilot in the position of walking by the trooper carrying the fuel jugs, while a couple of already parked there earlier semi's screened the airplane from the troopers line of sight. The plane was only 150' away at most. The pilot realized that as soon as he fired up the trooper would be alerted to the fact an airplane was ready to takeoff. The way I heard the story the pilot immediately started his takeoff after start up and left headed in a direction other then his ultimate destination (sneaky bastard) at a high rate of speed. At least he didn't catch a wingtip on a parked official vehicle when leaving! Darwinism, right there, that Cessna pilot needs to stay on the runways in the future.
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I am kind of concerned about cutting the post next to the cattle guard (I did think of it.) You see, if I cut that post, then the road grader guy will not see the telephone box next to it and wipe out my parents' telephone. Only time will tell...
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Watch out for mud puddles...

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ever notice that whenever there's a curve in a freeway or highway there are wires crossing there or very close to the curve... :?: :shock:
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No, I haven't noticed that, but we don't have many curves.

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iceman wrote:ever notice that whenever there's a curve in a freeway or highway there are wires crossing there or very close to the curve... :?: :shock:


That's cause utility companies find it more cost effective to keep their lines in a straight line and it's cheaper to build a road around obstacles.
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Glidergeek wrote:
iceman wrote:ever notice that whenever there's a curve in a freeway or highway there are wires crossing there or very close to the curve... :?: :shock:


That's cause utility companies find it more cost effective to keep their lines in a straight line and it's cheaper to build a road around obstacles.
Wow! Good thinking.
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just another gem my old flight instructor mentioned so many years ago..... good to keep in mind if you are suddenly looking for a obstacle free power off landing... :?
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joshuajayg wrote:.....I got a misdemeanor a few years back for some photos I had online. I only need to learn that lesson once.


I bet there's quite a story behind that comment.
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joshuajayg wrote:.....I got a misdemeanor a few years back for some photos I had online. I only need to learn that lesson once.


I bet there's quite a story behind that comment.


Yeah, it's kind of frustrating. After I paid the fine I put the photos back up figuring nothing more can be done. :x

So I scoped out a nice landing strip in the sticks and was coming in for a landing... I looked out at my wingtips at 2-5 feet agl and decided the mesquite bushes were a little close for comfort on the low ragwings. Such is life. Still looking for a nice non-runway option that the scarecoupe can handle. There sure aren't many around. After the first try I can back to my parents' house and tried the dirt driveway of theirs (really skinny) and while on final, the neighbor starting pulling out onto the "runway". I added power and pealed off to the right. He sat there and watched me leave for a few minutes. Probably wondering who the heck keeps buzzing the house. Haha. I should go talk to him this week...
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Ok I found the Kalifornia law, I'm screwed :lol:

Lawful Flight; Flight Within Airport Approach Zone - PUC
21403. (a) Flight in aircraft over the land and waters of this state is lawful, unless at altitudes below those prescribed by federal authority, or unless conducted so as to be imminently dangerous to persons or property lawfully on the land or water beneath. The landing of an aircraft on the land or waters of another, without his or her consent, is unlawful except in the case of a forced landing or pursuant to Section 21662.1. The owner, lessee, or operator of the aircraft is liable, as provided by law, for damages caused by a forced landing.
(b) The landing, takeoff, or taxiing of an aircraft on a public freeway, highway, road, or street is unlawful except in the following cases:
(1) A forced landing.
(2) A landing during a natural disaster or other public emergency if the landing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road, or street.
(3) When the landing, takeoff, or taxiing has received prior approval from the public agency having primary jurisdiction over traffic upon the freeway, highway, road or street.

The prosecution bears the burden of proving that none of the exceptions apply to the act which is alleged to be unlawful.
(c) The right of flight in aircraft includes the right of safe access to public airports, which includes the right of flight within the zone of approach of any public airport without restriction or hazard. The zone of approach of an airport shall conform to the specifications of Part 77 of the Federal Aviation Regulations of the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation.
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If you are ever caught, you just say that the engine was running rough and you made an emergency precautionary landing. You drained your sumps and found water in them.. After a good run up, the engine was operating normaly so you took off. Water in the sumps is about the only thing you can say and still be legal to take off without having a mechanic check it out.
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Yes creative truth stretching :wink: had a friend that had stopped on the side of the freeway in an 18 wheeler to take a pee (cool the tires) CHP stopped and asked, "Whatca doing?" His reply was, "When you gotta go you gotta go" CHP's reply was, "Here's your ticket". All he had to say was something like, I thought I heard a tire blow up or something like that.
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Glidergeek wrote:Yes creative truth stretching :wink: had a friend that had stopped on the side of the freeway in an 18 wheeler to take a pee (cool the tires) CHP stopped and asked, "Whatca doing?" His reply was, "When you gotta go you gotta go" CHP's reply was, "Here's your ticket". All he had to say was something like, I thought I heard a tire blow up or something like that.


A trucker really can't stop to pee on the side of the road in California? Sad day.
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