Hi, i'm from Argentina and new at the forum, I have a Vans RV-8 and a 90% RANS S-12 (with no enclosure option, only with a short windshield). Anyone here try to load a kayak (of aprox 15ft to 20ft) on a plane before? I would love if I can carry with me my kayak in my S-12. I was thinking in something under the floor, I know that sounds crazy , but for now are only ideas.
I would appreciate very much if you can show me photos of their aircraft with a similar modification.

Thanks!
Bautista

I have seen canoes, surfboards, lumber even snowmachines strapped to the bottom of Super cubs. I would think a kayak with as streamlined and light as they are would be no issue. The only problem you might have would be length.

Thoughts from Alaska ...

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Notice/N_8900.272.pdf

Welcome, and I'd love to see some pictures of your planes!

PAMR MX wrote:I have seen canoes, surfboards, lumber even snowmachines strapped to the bottom of Super cubs. I would think a kayak with as streamlined and light as they are would be no issue. The only problem you might have would be length.

Thanks for the reply PAMR. Yes, a kayak weighs about 40lb and are very stremlined. But you are right, thats the problem, I don't have 15 or 20ft of floor in my S-12. The plane have a length of 22ft aprox, but I have the radiator of the engine in the middle, under the floor. I will work on a solution, but may be the only solution will be change my kayak for an inflatable one haha.

CamTom12 wrote:Welcome, and I'd love to see some pictures of your planes!

CamTom! I just created a topic of introduction with photos and others, if you want to take a look.
https://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/pilots/community-forum?p=223163#p223163

Bautista.

There are many good inflatable options that are lightweight and would fit in your baggage area. I have been impressed with Innova Kayaks. I have not paddled one but I see them every year at a local paddle sport expo. The kayaks are very high quality.

http://www.innovakayak.com

Joe

These are very high quality, lightweight and portable:

http://www.alpackaraft.com/

Thanks for the advice guys! I will keep this in mind if I decide to switch to an inflatable one.

Bautista;

I have Klondike folding kayak from Feathercraft: http://feathercraft.com/ that I carry w/ break down paddles. I probably have more storage area in my Maule than you have in your Rans, but it is an option. It handles really well and, while not as slick through the water as a Fiberglas boat,it is quite efficient. Very stable.

The Canadian $ is in the toilet right now so pricing might be decent. I am glad I bought mine before the prices soared.

As our Alaska guys can tell you more about external loads than I can, but I understand the killer issue is the disturbance of the air flow over the rear control surfaces. Weight and drag can be ok, but losing elevator or rudder control can ruin your day.

TD

Do it like Ney did!

TomD wrote:Bautista;

I have Klondike folding kayak from Feathercraft: http://feathercraft.com/ that I carry w/ break down paddles. I probably have more storage area in my Maule than you have in your Rans, but it is an option. It handles really well and, while not as slick through the water as a Fiberglas boat,it is quite efficient. Very stable.

The Canadian $ is in the toilet right now so pricing might be decent. I am glad I bought mine before the prices soared.

As our Alaska guys can tell you more about external loads than I can, but I understand the killer issue is the disturbance of the air flow over the rear control surfaces. Weight and drag can be ok, but losing elevator or rudder control can ruin your day.

TD

Yes, I was thinking of Feathercraft , they look very nice and are great kayaks, but the price is too expensive for me now, start at 3000. Maybe the Innova could be an option, not seem so bad and start at $ 500 .

I was seriously considering the problem of disturbance of the air flow over the controls . I'd rather get something inflatable or folding rather than an unnecessary risk on the performance of the plane.

I appreciate a lot your advice!

These are great ideas, I'd love to have a light weight kayak in the plane. Or/and a couple of these - I think we're going to get a couple for Christmas:

http://xterrawetsuits.com/index.php/slp/stayfit

Take a look at this one--saw it on Sharks a few weeks ago. http://www.orukayak.com/

Cary

I carry two Kayaks with wheels installed. One caveat, I use a canoe paddle instead of a double bladed Kayak paddle (seen on right Kayak).

Crzyivan13 wrote:Do it like Ney did!

As I posted on the RANSCLAN...Seeing this just makes me cringe!!! Friggin idiot has them tied around the flaps. The photo needs the caption:
"Why Women live longer"

WWhunter wrote:

Crzyivan13 wrote:Do it like Ney did!

As I posted on the RANSCLAN...Seeing this just makes me cringe!!! Friggin idiot has them tied around the flaps. The photo needs the caption:
"Why Women live longer"

Really? Any fool can see he won't need to use the flaps, there is going to be plenty of extra drag from the kayaks.

WWhunter wrote:

Crzyivan13 wrote:Do it like Ney did!

As I posted on the RANSCLAN...Seeing this just makes me cringe!!! Friggin idiot has them tied around the flaps. The photo needs the caption:
"Why Women live longer"

It does make for a great picture. But if you read his post regarding to the original, Ney just did it for the picture. He actually had the kayaks inside of his 210...

I remember when he posted this. Ney tells a great story of his adventures. This was for a photo and story telling only.

A1Skinner wrote:

WWhunter wrote:

Crzyivan13 wrote:Do it like Ney did!

As I posted on the RANSCLAN...Seeing this just makes me cringe!!! Friggin idiot has them tied around the flaps. The photo needs the caption:
"Why Women live longer"

It does make for a great picture. But if you read his post regarding to the original, Ney just did it for the picture. He actually had the kayaks inside of his 210...

should have put them under the wing.........with a bit of super glue and garden hose they could have doubled as long range tanks! see.....people just don't think these things through......