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Jr. CubBuilder,

Your experience was not unlike a lot of other folks who have never flown mountains. Johnson Creek is pretty tame compared to some of the others and is a good place to start.

High altitude Mountain strips are where I grew up flying, to me it's second nature. On the flip side of the coin, I have flown into big metropolitan airports where they had extensive flight training (a virtual hornets nest)with foreign student pilots who spoke very broken english....not that's scary. I'll take the mountains anyday over that.

Some of the strips we have flown are closed now and some were never officially listed anywhere. It's important to use the ones still open or they may be closed in the future as well, for lack of interest.

Many people become so intimidated by the mountains the first time they become week kneed and start making excuses why they can't continue on....something is wrong with their aircraft. Riggings wrong, somethings vibrating etc. Usually a flat lander with big tires and all the Alaskan mods on their aircraft. Instead of asking for help they go on and tell you a lame story how they have thirty some odd years flying experience and how they did this and that. Don't mean squat.

One of the most important things to keep in mind for flatlanders who are used to flying the horizon is when they get down below the ridges and varying angles of slopes they can get pretty screwed up on visual cues.

A lot of people will try to fly early mornings and late evenings to avoid the thermals. Early morning is best if your flying in. If you fly in to close to dusk in the evening, at altitude it will seem you have plenty of light, but once you drop down below the ridges you'll wonder how it got so dark so fast. Making your landing a little more challenging.

If you need to tighten a turn low and slow in the hills, you better drag on flaps or you may not complete the turn. :roll:
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Sometimes thermals are your friends. If you slept in and missed the cool morning air, you can often find a nice thermal, turn back into it, circle, and double your climb rate.

I don't think I would attempt this in an area I was not intimately familiar with though. It can too easily backfire on an unknowing pilot "scratching" for lift and hugging terrain too closely.

I've been experimenting with using thermals to climb in the 172, but in safe, wide open areas with plenty of terrain clearance.

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You can find great thermals over Walmarts black asphalt parking lot filled with cars on a hot day that will peg your VSI.

Thermals in the mountains are a different animal due to the magnified, uneven warming of the various surfaces. Important to remember that where you have a thermal you will also have a lot of down air (vertical shear)adjacent to the thermal, replacing the air that's going up. Mix this with high density altitude and it gets tricky.

Cooling air in the evening produces a steady breeze flowing downhill through the valleys and canyons making for steady approaches.

A steady state wind of 20-40 knots is great for finding lift when flying just above an opposing ridgeline. The trick here is to stay out of the shear on the leeward side of the ridge. 8)
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Re: Idaho backcountry from a greenhorn’s perspective

Bumping an good classic report from 2005 written by one of our earliest members.
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Re: Idaho backcountry from a greenhorn’s perspective

If you haven't been into Johnson Creek before this video of mine might help a little. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjONA7HyL-w
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Re: Idaho backcountry from a greenhorn’s perspective

Curious about this
Cooling air in the evening produces a steady breeze flowing downhill through the valleys and canyons making for steady approaches.


It has been my experience that valley breezes in the mornings generally flow downhill, and flow back up in the evenings.

This has been in valleys draining in a southerly direction.

I always figured air to the south/lower was warmer and rising and sucking the cooler air down from the mtns. in themornings and reersing te process in the evenings.

Any thoughts?

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