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In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

They both have a gross wight of 2550 pounds so they are equal on these grounds

They built 510 of the 180's and 843 of the 182's-----182 was definitely more popular so it is better

The 180 base price was $12,950 and the 182 base price was $13,750------cost more so it had to be better

When all else is said it must be the ever popular Land-O-Matic that sets it apart.

Oh did I mention that short people can see over the glare shield.

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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Haha. It sounds like you are going through 180 withdrawl and trying to justify the 182 Tim...

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qmdv wrote:They both have a gross wight of 2550 pounds so they are equal on these grounds

They built 510 of the 180's and 843 of the 182's-----182 was definitely more popular so it is better

The 180 base price was $12,950 and the 182 base price was $13,750------cost more so it had to be better

When all else is said it must be the ever popular Land-O-Matic that sets it apart.

Oh did I mention that short people can see over the glare shield.

Tim


The only thing better that an old straight tail 182 is an old straight tail 182 converted to a tail wheel. :)
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ For ski operations and short penis compensation, thats about it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

A1Skinner wrote:Haha. It sounds like you are going through 180 withdrawl and trying to justify the 182 Tim...

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Have had straight tail 182 since 2000. I just was fooling around.

Interesting that the 180 was cheaper than a 182 in 56 but not now. Also the same can probably be said for a Super Cub and a Ti Pacer. Supply and demand may be in play here.

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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

The biggest thing that makes it better is that it is what you have. :D
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

False...... 180 has a tailwheel :D
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

qmdv wrote:
A1Skinner wrote:Haha. It sounds like you are going through 180 withdrawl and trying to justify the 182 Tim...

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Have had straight tail 182 since 2000. I just was fooling around.

Interesting that the 180 was cheaper than a 182 in 56 but not now. Also the same can probably be said for a Super Cub and a Ti Pacer. Supply and demand may be in play here.

Tim

Ya, supply and demand. The remaining 180's can demand more money than the numerous airworthy skylanes since a disproportionate number of their siblings have been ground looped into the scrap yards over the last 60 years.
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shortfielder wrote:The biggest thing that makes it better is that it is what you have. :D
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This is why my P172D is the best airplane ever made. :mrgreen:

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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Nosedragger wrote:
qmdv wrote:
A1Skinner wrote:Haha. It sounds like you are going through 180 withdrawl and trying to justify the 182 Tim...

David


Have had straight tail 182 since 2000. I just was fooling around.

Interesting that the 180 was cheaper than a 182 in 56 but not now. Also the same can probably be said for a Super Cub and a Ti Pacer. Supply and demand may be in play here.

Tim

Ya, supply and demand. The remaining 180's can demand more money than the numerous airworthy skylanes since a disproportionate number of their siblings have been ground looped into the scrap yards over the last 60 years.


What are you saying about the pilots of the 180s that haven't been balled up? :P.
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

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What are you saying about the pilots of the 180s that haven't been balled up? :P.


A) They don't fly much.

B) They're early risers.

C) They're very good.
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Nosedragger wrote:
qmdv wrote:

Have had straight tail 182 since 2000. I just was fooling around.

Interesting that the 180 was cheaper than a 182 in 56 but not now. Also the same can probably be said for a Super Cub and a Ti Pacer. Supply and demand may be in play here.

Tim

Ya, supply and demand. The remaining 180's can demand more money than the numerous airworthy skylanes since a disproportionate number of their siblings have been ground looped into the scrap yards over the last 60 years.


What are you saying about the pilots of the 180s that haven't been balled up? :P.[/quote]

Give them time. That last 180 will bring a fortune.

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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Nosedragger wrote:
A1Skinner wrote:
What are you saying about the pilots of the 180s that haven't been balled up? :P.


A) They don't fly much.

B) They're early risers.

C) They're very good.


Haha! Good answer nosedragger.

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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Blame me for getting Tim started on this 1956 182 thing , back in the 1990s Tim and his wife visited my hanger in southern California . I had my 02brovo in pieces scattered around the f18 hanger - while outside set his first 1959 182 - Weed to Burbank limo . Over the years Tim and I have disscused the various variations of old straight tail 182s- I now have 3 pre 1960 182's .With the 2550 gross weight and SPORTSMAN STOL kit it's a supercub with 4 seats . 1956 has the largest ground clearance of the 182s - even with small wheels.Simple to maintain and fly it's the bang for your buck . Same airframe except for tailwheel / nose wheel as Cessna 180 - all the parts are interchangeable . 1956 182 were farmers pickup trucks - equally at home in the field hualing tractor parts or taking the wife to the relatives for birthday .
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Another positive attribute to the '56 182; if you convert on to tailwheel, your hull insurance will be half what your buddies pay for a 180 yet you are flying essentially the same airplane. At least that was my experience with a converted '56 we had some years ago.

edit: So for those that think we neglected to tell the insurance company and just got lucky, I was explicit every year at renewal that it was a tailwheel conversion with big wheels or straight skis and we were landing off airport on river bars, glaciers, etc. As others have noted the insurance companies may have changed policies but for us what apparently mattered most was that the serial number matched up with a C182 and that meant a lower insurance rate. YMMV
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Most insurance companies have wised up and tend to ask if there has been a conversion...
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

Troy Hamon wrote:Most insurance companies have wised up and tend to ask if there has been a conversion...

I would tend to agree Troy. I think if you had a conversion and didn't tell the insurance about it, then ground looped, the insurance wpuld have pretty good grounds to not pay out.
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Re: In 1956 why the 182 is better than the 180

if you can ground loop a 182 (trike), you're a genius :mrgreen:
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ExperimentalAviator wrote:if you can ground loop a 182 (trike), you're a genius :mrgreen:

Hence the "conversion" (tailwheel 182) that we are speaking of...
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