My friend Don sent this, The guy flying sure looks like he's have in fun with his new bird!!

Incredible.

Holy shit!

Floatsnskis wrote:Holy shit!

^^^

M6RV6 wrote: The guy flying

I think we know that guy... Where's he been, anyway?

Deadstick Takeoff Steve... Having fun as usual.

Gump

Yeeehaaww!

Awesome.. Ol Steve has a handle on that thing..!!

Nothing like uphill landings, damn they are fun! Yee haw indeed.

I have a theory, that the ground effect action when landing uphill, allows for AOA's unobtainable on level ground. With, resulting very low ground speed touchdowns. My theory is a big bubble of ground effect air that would normally somewhat dissipate on level ground, when landing uphill, somehow hangs around longer and helps the plane out more. Or maybe it's just the landing gear doesn't get in the way as much? All I know for sure is I have consistently the slowest touchdowns when landing uphill, of course the rollout is less due to the slope, but that's not what I'm talking about. This is what has gotten me hooked on uphill landings, once the eyeball gets calibrated they are the safest landings I make, I just like every thing about them, the icing on the cake is the downhill takeoffs. Steve's video really shows this, a slow landing plane to start with, landing on a very steep slope, it doesn't get any better then that.

Steve puts on a hell of a display.

Just out of curiosity, what would you do if you were ever by yourself doing an uphill landing and you failed to carry enough momentum to get yourself turned back downhill? By yourself, pointed uphill, full power, going nowhere is no way to go through life!

RanchPilot wrote:Steve puts on a hell of a display.

Just out of curiosity, what would you do if you were ever by yourself doing an uphill landing and you failed to carry enough momentum to get yourself turned back downhill? By yourself, pointed uphill, full power, going nowhere is no way to go through life!

In Steve's DVD he put out several years ago, he shows this kind of situation and how he had to back down the hill to a place he could turn around. Of course, if there was no place to turn around.........

Great video. Not sure I feel the same love of rolling backwards down a hill as he does, but I dont have near the hrs either, so maybe that will come with more time.

highroad wrote:

RanchPilot wrote:Steve puts on a hell of a display.

Just out of curiosity, what would you do if you were ever by yourself doing an uphill landing and you failed to carry enough momentum to get yourself turned back downhill? By yourself, pointed uphill, full power, going nowhere is no way to go through life!

In Steve's DVD he put out several years ago, he shows this kind of situation and how he had to back down the hill to a place he could turn around. Of course, if there was no place to turn around.........

Oh hell I've had that happen a bunch of times, (a dozen or so) for reasons from seeing something I didn't like on roll out, having the cell phone vibrate (my biz phone, and that pays for the flying), and mostly just not paying close enough attention. No big deal, I just engage the nifty MATCO parking brake (both wheels), get out, take a leak usually, berate myself for screwing up, and then after eyeballing the terrain choke one wheel with a rock and then get back in and take the parking brake off the choked wheel. Then back out and with the light overall weight of the bird and being motivated I can crank it around sideways to the hill or slightly more then that. It just pivots around the locked tire. Then, unless I have too low of air pressure and the Airstreak folds in half (happened once, I quit running 3 lbs pressure and back up to 4-4.5) I get in the uphill side (good having two doors for just this reason) and I'm outa there. It is a pain but not a deal breaker, in a heavier plane maybe so. For sure it's better not to do it. And also for sure the real steep stuff I don't let it happen ever, it's the in between stuff that you can almost but not quite taxi up that has got me. Backing up in the times I've done it would not have helped, maybe once or twice, sometimes doing that and stomping on one brake will get you off angle enough to let you get going, mostly not due to other problems below. There are a lot of advantages to having a lightweight in a situation like that, obviously.

Now, landing steep stuff on skis, that is where is gets real interesting real quick, especially when you allow the engine temps to drop so low as to cause incipient carb ice, just enough to kill the engine when you go to idle. It will restart in a second or so, I'm talking just a hint of ice, but it is MUCH better to have total control over the oil temp and coolant temp like I now do with cockpit adjustable sliders/valves etc. I slid backwards about 15' once before restart happened, that was a great learning experience in keeping things warmed up.

courierguy wrote:

highroad wrote:

RanchPilot wrote:Steve puts on a hell of a display.

Just out of curiosity, what would you do if you were ever by yourself doing an uphill landing and you failed to carry enough momentum to get yourself turned back downhill? By yourself, pointed uphill, full power, going nowhere is no way to go through life!

In Steve's DVD he put out several years ago, he shows this kind of situation and how he had to back down the hill to a place he could turn around. Of course, if there was no place to turn around.........

Oh hell I've had that happen a bunch of times, (a dozen or so) for reasons from seeing something I didn't like on roll out, having the cell phone vibrate (my biz phone, and that pays for the flying), and mostly just not paying close enough attention. No big deal, I just engage the nifty MATCO parking brake (both wheels), get out, take a leak usually, berate myself for screwing up, and then after eyeballing the terrain choke one wheel with a rock and then get back in and take the parking brake off the choked wheel. Then back out and with the light overall weight of the bird and being motivated I can crank it around sideways to the hill or slightly more then that. It just pivots around the locked tire. Then, unless I have too low of air pressure and the Airstreak folds in half (happened once, I quit running 3 lbs pressure and back up to 4-4.5) I get in the uphill side (good having two doors for just this reason) and I'm outa there. It is a pain but not a deal breaker, in a heavier plane maybe so. For sure it's better not to do it. And also for sure the real steep stuff I don't let it happen ever, it's the in between stuff that you can almost but not quite taxi up that has got me. Backing up in the times I've done it would not have helped, maybe once or twice, sometimes doing that and stomping on one brake will get you off angle enough to let you get going, mostly not due to other problems below. There are a lot of advantages to having a lightweight in a situation like that, obviously.

Now, landing steep stuff on skis, that is where is gets real interesting real quick, especially when you allow the engine temps to drop so low as to cause incipient carb ice, just enough to kill the engine when you go to idle. It will restart in a second or so, I'm talking just a hint of ice, but it is MUCH better to have total control over the oil temp and coolant temp like I now do with cockpit adjustable sliders/valves etc. I slid backwards about 15' once before restart happened, that was a great learning experience in keeping things warmed up.

Sounds easier to describe than to do! What is it the old time cross country skiers used to put on their skis? Seal skin with short cropped hair? Something like that. That might keep you from sliding backwards landing on a snowy slope.