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Landing On Grass at Tower Controlled Airports

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Re: Landing On Grass at Tower Controlled Airports

mtv wrote:What Bonanzaman says MAY be sorta true where he works, but its not in many other places.

Anyone attend Oshkosh this summer? The manager of the airport notam'd it closed, and the air traffic controllers continued clearing pilots to land, even on a CLOSED airfield. They then left it up to the airport volunteers to figure out what to do with them, and in many cases, they turned them around and told them to leave.

So, if ATC just does what airport management wants them to do, how come in Santa Monica, if you're flying a jet (which the city and airport management prohibit) or if you're leaving after the curfew (ditto) ATC will simply inform you of the curfew and clear you for takeoff??? That sort of thing has been going on for decades at SMO. I've talked to controllers there, and they simply say that they manage air traffic, not political issues.

So, I wouldn't bet on ATC "just doing what the airport manager wants them to do".

MTV



OSH is so different it doesn't even count. The point is the controller rules are very simple. You want to land on something other than a runway? Easy. That operation is approved, at your own risk. As long as the controller has no other conflicts like vehicles or construction equipment, etc.
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Re: Landing On Grass at Tower Controlled Airports

Redbaron180 wrote:Vmc,
I have never been denied the opportunity to land in the grass at BLI, and I suspect that as an earlier poster said it is because the tower has good guys.
Are you around for a while? Maybe we could get together and do some bar hopping. Im on Lopez Island and have a cub on 31's.................



They probably are good guys but you can be damn sure the airport owner knows what is going on. He just doesn't care.
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The city of Santa Monica has been trying to close down "their" airport for the last 30 plus years. Hilton Hotels moved their corporate HQ out of there largely because of the city's Nazi approach to jet operations, curfews, noise limits, etc, etc. That was a BIG operation, and it went to Vegas.

BM,

My point is, in at least SEVERAL situations I've seen, ATC doesn't do AT ALL what the airport management wanted them to do. In my experience, if ATC doesn't like what airport management wants, ATC does what THEY want, and inform everyone that ATC manages movements and airspace, not land....or some such.

ATC does what it wants. And, that's often the best thing that can happen, actually. I more often agree with ATC than I do with airport management.

Unless it's you of course..... :D

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Didn't somebody land a jet on the grass at OSH this year? :shock:
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58Skylane wrote:Didn't somebody land a jet on the grass at OSH this year? :shock:


This is like throwing up a softball for a Jack Roush joke.

Too soon?

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58Skylane wrote:Didn't somebody land a jet on the grass at OSH this year? :shock:

No 58SKYLANE..the jet was not useable afterwards..although the people walked off, the jet did not servive the landing..that is considered a CRASH! #-o
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