Pusher wrote:One thing to consider is that with the new medical US pilots are prohibited to fly into Canada.


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I also wonder what our insurance companies will do. Will they cover us at the same rates if flying, albeit legally, WITHOUT a medical??

Can a US-certificated Sport Pilot fly into Canada?

hotrod180 wrote:Can a US-certificated Sport Pilot fly into Canada?

No it is not a ICAO recognized license. Plus there is a requirement to have a valid aviation medical to fly in Canada.

All the info can be found on the eAPIS and CBP sites.


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M6RV6 wrote:[

I don't think you are able to fly through Canadian airspace or get a flight plan approved.
Similar thing in Canada is that you can be an airline captain past 65 years old as long as you can hold a Class 1 medical and your contract does not have a mandatory retirement age. However you can fly only in Canadian airspace but can not enter US airspace, as the US has different rules.


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Wonder how this will work? How would anyone know what type medical I have?[/quote]
When I file , just Plane # and name of pilot, no PL #? How would ATC or NAV CAN know?

Medical is attached to / part of your pilot license (number).[/quote][/quote]
I wouldn't be surprised if they started asking for your pilot # because of this rule change George. As much as I hate that. I like it when you guys fly up here.

A1Skinner wrote:

M6RV6 wrote:[

I don't think you are able to fly through Canadian airspace or get a flight plan approved.
Similar thing in Canada is that you can be an airline captain past 65 years old as long as you can hold a Class 1 medical and your contract does not have a mandatory retirement age. However you can fly only in Canadian airspace but can not enter US airspace, as the US has different rules.


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Wonder how this will work? How would anyone know what type medical I have?

When I file , just Plane # and name of pilot, no PL #? How would ATC or NAV CAN know?

Medical is attached to / part of your pilot license (number).[/quote][/quote]
I wouldn't be surprised if they started asking for your pilot # because of this rule change George. As much as I hate that. I like it when you guys fly up here.[/quote]

Not asked for anywhere in the world on any ICAO flight plan?? Would need to institute new Flt Plan form for just Can.??
Will be interesting to see what shakes out!
Spose I over fly I would get shot down??
HAHA!!

So on the 3rd of May I got my Basic Med done by a local Doctor who is also a pilot!
Very good physical, talked to me more about what I could do than not, also explained it in more detail than any AME I ever went to!!
So far it is all pretty easy.
Quiz and faa paperwork was also easy on line to do.
So far so good!!
I just have to overfly Canada on my trip North!! Hello Ketchikan or Wrangle, depends on the price of gas!!

Canadian Pilots and Owners Association is working to get the Light Sport and Basic med ok'd in Canada and the EAA is working to get Rec. licence and Class 4 med ok'd in the states. Sure hope they are both successful

Mountain Doctor wrote:

Pusher wrote:One thing to consider is that with the new medical US pilots are prohibited to fly into Canada.


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I also wonder what our insurance companies will do. Will they cover us at the same rates if flying, albeit legally, WITHOUT a medical??

I have been flying as light sport for a couple years. I just did the Basic Med thing.

Prior to each I called AVEMCO, my insurer, and asked how this would affect my insurance. They said no problem, and no change in rates.

If your insurer does otherwise, call AVEMCO.

MTV

175 magnum wrote:Canadian Pilots and Owners Association is working to get the Light Sport and Basic med ok'd in Canada and the EAA is working to get Rec. licence and Class 4 med ok'd in the states. Sure hope they are both successful

Could you please provide any additional info you might have on this? I know I personally tried talking/writing to the EAA/AOPA several years ago about this exact same thing. I was wanting to fly along with a guy that was flying an LS aircraft on floats into Canada. I was current as far as 3rd class medical, but had a couple of 'older' friends that had been flying up to there cabins for decades and now were not able to do so since they had expired medicals. They always needed someone else to bring their planes across the border. The problem they relayed to me, wasn't getting into Canada, it was upon returning to the US and CBP would ask to see their medicals. These two guys have been border crossing for probably 5 decades and now they have had to stop due to medicals.

WWhunter wrote:

175 magnum wrote:Canadian Pilots and Owners Association is working to get the Light Sport and Basic med ok'd in Canada and the EAA is working to get Rec. licence and Class 4 med ok'd in the states. Sure hope they are both successful

Could you please provide any additional info you might have on this? I know I personally tried talking/writing to the EAA/AOPA several years ago about this exact same thing. I was wanting to fly along with a guy that was flying an LS aircraft on floats into Canada. I was current as far as 3rd class medical, but had a couple of 'older' friends that had been flying up to there cabins for decades and now were not able to do so since they had expired medicals. They always needed someone else to bring their planes across the border. The problem they relayed to me, wasn't getting into Canada, it was upon returning to the US and CBP would ask to see their medicals. These two guys have been border crossing for probably 5 decades and now they have had to stop due to medicals.

Here is more info.

https://www.copanational.org/en/2017/03 ... h-forward/


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Pusher,
Thank you. I understand this to be very similar to the US Basic Med but I am not seeing where it will allow Sport Pilot flyers to be legal. Am I misunderstanding?

175 magnum wrote:Canadian Pilots and Owners Association is working to get the Light Sport and Basic med ok'd in Canada and the EAA is working to get Rec. licence and Class 4 med ok'd in the states. Sure hope they are both successful

Are those two combinations pretty much the same?
Or is your rec license & class 4 medical pretty much like our Basic Med?

I still think FAA should have called our new thing a 4th class medical--
"BasicMed" sounds like a cheap health care policy.

The medicals are almost identical but a little different. The Class 4 is done by your family doctor every 2 years when over 40 and it is just a very basic medical but it is not wide open like the Basic med.
The big difference is what you can do with the Recreational Permit.
I can fly:
-day vfr only
- any single engine piston powered airplane
- maximum 4 place seating
- maximum 1 passenger
- float rating allowed
- only allowed in Canada at this time (because of the change in rules)
I can fly a piston powered Otter on amphib floats with only one passenger on board. The rest of the space is for atv's and moose meat.
ps. I can not afford to actually fly that plane.

Actually, I think the rules say we (Canadians with an RPP) can fly an aircraft designed for four-place seating. So, for instance, an early model Cessna 180, but not an Otter or a Beaver or a 185.

Ok, that was my understanding also, that it would be more inline with the Basic Med and not help out the Sport Pilot flyers.

175 magnum wrote: The medicals are almost identical but a little different. The Class 4 is done by your family doctor every 2 years when over 40 and it is just a very basic medical but it is not wide open like the Basic med.....

Not sure what you mean by "wide open like the Basic Med".
The Basic Med exam parameters actually sound a little more comprehensive than the one for our 3rd class medical.
AOPA's Physicians Guide to Basic Med compares it to a CDL (commercial drivers license) or "wellness" examination.

By way of comparison:

The Canadian Category 4 medical is largely self-declared. You simply attest that you do not have anything in a list of medical conditions relevant to the safe operation of an aircraft. Your family doctor looks at your medical chart and confirms your attestation.

The period of validity is five years (under age 40) and two years (over age 40). An ECG has to be done at the first medical application after age 40, again after age 50 and every four years thereafter.

Now that May 1st has passed and supposedly this is in effect, can anyone answer a simple question:

If I DID have a current medical within the last 4 years, and if I NOW start taking a doctor prescribed medication for a common health issue (a condition that would previously have required a special issuance), can I now skip the special issuance and just take the medication and fly without the special issuance?

Or are there still a bunch of gray areas that have not been sorted out yet?

NunavutPA-12 wrote:Actually, I think the rules say we (Canadians with an RPP) can fly an aircraft designed for four-place seating. So, for instance, an early model Cessna 180, but not an Otter or a Beaver or a 185.

Yes thus is correct. You can't fly an otter with basic med is my understanding.

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I think if you read all the stuff AOPA & FAA have on Basic Med, you will be able to answer your own question.
My first thought is yes, UNLESS it's a non-FAA approved med, or something that is not recommended for use when you are driving or operating heavy equipment.
Esp check out AOPA's Physician's Guide to BasicMed:

http://aopa.org/advocacy/pilots/medical ... cian-guide

And the actual Basic Med AC:

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... C_68-1.pdf