As I was searching for a CFI for my BFR I talked to a few who were not tailwheel endorsed a they said as long as I was current they could give a BFR. Is there any truth to this? I don't really think it is a good idea I'm just curious. It was a little tempting because the only guy that was available wanted $200 for the minimum time. I decided to wait till another CFI I've been up with before gets back from Belize...he's not in it for the money and will only charge me like 50 bucks. He's a crusty duster pilot...more my type.

As long as you're still current and can act as PIC, it is legal.

Since you are a rated pilot with skills in the airplane you are doing the BFR in there is little risk that the CFI will need to fly the plane, let alone land it.

whee,

where are you now, still on the east side of the state? There are several that can do it for you here in Twin.

If you are in the Boise area call Chuck Ruffing in Nampa.

soaringhiggy, I'm back in Boise but the plane is still in IF. I left it there with my Dad...I figure since he pays for half the annual and insurance I'd better let him fly it some.

If the plane ends up here before I get my BFR Chuck is the guy I'll call. I hear he knows Luscombes pretty well and it would be nice to get some instruction from a experienced Luscombe guy.

aft CG, Thanks for the response. After i heard that a not endorsed CFI could do the BFR I asked a buddy of mine if he'd be willing to do it. He quoted "1 hour of flight training" in the regs and said flight training implies instruction so he couldn't do it.

Chuck taught me in 140's 170's 7eca's and 182's and man that would have been a long time ago, over 25 years ago. He is still a great guy and a good instructor.

whee wrote:
aft CG, Thanks for the response. After i heard that a not endorsed CFI could do the BFR I asked a buddy of mine if he'd be willing to do it. He quoted "1 hour of flight training" in the regs and said flight training implies instruction so he couldn't do it.

It says one hour of instruction on the ground and one in the air. It does not specify what needs to be taught. The open area is the two edge sword of being a CFI. I have the freedom to choose what to teach you, but I have the responsibility to make sure that you don't make a smoking hole in the next two years. I start with a couple of key questions: What kind of flying have you been doing, and what kind of flying do you picture yourself doing in the next couple of years?

If the CFI knows you and has flown with you then it is a pretty easy ride. If he's a guy off the street and you've never met him then the risk level (for him) is high, and he'd be an idiot to sign you off in one hour.

A BFR is awkward for the CFI. My very first one was for a guy who was a 777 test pilot. What the hell was I going to instruct him in? He was actually very cool about the whole thing and made sure that it was clear that I was the instructor and he must fly to my standards - end of story. I learned quite a bit flying with him, including some theory that many can't fathom.

The ugly ones are the BFR where the guy shows up thinking he's going to tell mehow it's going to go and where to sign. No thanks.

Your friend would be instructing you how to fly a single engine land plane, for which you are both rated. Where the kickstand is located is not of concern when you are flying. If it were me (and I weren't tail wheel endorsed) and I had reason to trust you, I'd hop in and go.

Just don't tell me where to sign.

I would pose a question, regarding this issue:

If a CFI flies with someone for the purpose of a flight review, and that person doesn't, for whatever reason, successfully complete the flight portion of the review, the CFI is required to endorse the applicant's logbook as X amount of Dual Flight Instruction received, with the CFI's signature.

If the CFI is not authorized to serve as Pilot in Command of that aircraft (though the CFI is qualified in category and class) because they do not possess a tailwheel endorsement, I would argue that the CFI would NOT be authorized to do so.

Certainly the flight could be legal, assuming the applicant was still within his or her 24 month flight review period, was current in tailwheel aircraft, etc.

My point is that I don't believe you can give dual instruction in an aircraft which you are not qualified in every way to fly as PIC.

Been wrong before, though.

MTV

So what I gather for what you are saying MTV is that if the BRF was passed it's no big deal, the CFI can sign the book. But if failed then I would have paid a guy to take him for a ride.

mtv wrote:My point is that I don't believe you can give dual instruction in an aircraft which you are not qualified in every way to fly as PIC.

I'm not a CFI so I don't know, but do you need a current medical to act as a CFI while flying with a certified and current pilot?

Gump