Worth listening too.

"A little bit shaky there..."
--Me, listening to the audio

Sobering

Great job to the crew on that flight! Everybody kept their composure and continued to "FLY THE AIRPLANE"!!! Can't imagine what the passengers were thinking, if there were any...hopefully not.

Icing is no joke....

WOW, that was scary. Icing is nothing to take lightly and even more so in rising terrain.. Glad they made it safe .
Glad they are safe. Well done to the pilots and ATC.

bart wrote:Sobering

......Can't imagine what the passengers were thinking, if there were any...hopefully not.

Icing is no joke....

Its been my experience flying 135 that the pax have no idea whats going on. Some may realize something is going on, but unless someone from the cockpit tells them, they never know depth and gravity of the situation.

And you are right about the ice, it can kill you in minutes.....

The gents flying in the recording are some super, cool Cats.... This is probably the only reason that this situation didn't end up in a search and recovery operation.

wow - it had me shaking.

Gave chills down my spine, and a lump in my throat when it turned out good. Well done pilot!

I think I should have that guy buy me a Lottery Ticket!

Son of a bisquit!!!

What's the altitude of the valley there? I know for sure the rocks stick up higher than they were

Very well done by all.

Don't ask that pilot to buy you a lottery ticket... he used up all his luck. His calm and professional demeanor speaks volumes about the pilot. The co-pilot sounded a little nervous and who could blame him. Even at the end the pilot came back on and said "It's not over yet." You could tell he was going to fly that airplane all the way to engine shutdown. Got a lot of respect for the man.

lowlevelops wrote:

bart wrote:Sobering

......Can't imagine what the passengers were thinking, if there were any...hopefully not.

Icing is no joke....

Its been my experience flying 135 that the pax have no idea whats going on. Some may realize something is going on, but unless someone from the cockpit tells them, they never know depth and gravity of the situation.

And you are right about the ice, it can kill you in minutes.....

The gents flying in the recording are some super, cool Cats.... This is probably the only reason that this situation didn't end up in a search and recovery operation.

Normally yes, the pax are somewhat oblivious to most situations...thankfully!! But I bet if there was pax on this flight, they would have known something was up when both fires quit burning, the cockpit lights up like a Christmas tree, and their stomach is in their throat from a 4000fpm descent...I'm sure the props were slinging ice onto the fuselage too!

I've been in a situation similar to this in a helicopter up on the north slope of Alaska. Luckily the engines kept running, but it was shaking so bad from asymetric ice shedding that we could barely make out the instruments to stay upright. By the time we broke out about 600' AGL and things smoothed out, we were about 50 degrees off the ILS in near whiteout conditions...we both thought for sure the helicopter was going to come apart. Luckily we didn't have to worry about mountains like these guys did!! And, lucky we didn't have pax, cuz it would have been a MUCH bigger deal after landing. Took awhile to get the seat cushions pried from my backside

We had pax on the flight out just 30 minutes earlier skipping the bottoms in -30c conditions with no indications of icing, and no buildup in the climb up through the clouds to VMC above on the way back to deadhorse.

Listening to that audio, I was on the edge of my seat with my heart in my throat...ice is bad...

Oh Boy...... That was fun.

Gump

We had a doctor here in Pocatello who went down a few years ago in the same model plane, an MU 2,icing was the probable cause. I remember at the time hearing something about that particular model having a low tolerance for icing......don't know if that's correct though but this doc was real well known and liked and it was a big hit for "small" airplane aviation here locally when he (and 3 others) went down.

Yikes! I've picked up ice 3 times. Scared me every time. Too bad TKS is so danged expensive

All I can say is...Wow!

Amazing!

That one had me on the edge of my seat and a lump in my throat! reminded me of a trip a few years ago through Merril pass when we were icing up in the otter and could not hold altitude... was looking pretty damn grim for a bit. Divine intervention is about the only reason we can come up with that we didn't scatter the plane all over the valley floor that day and become another smoking hole in the ground like so many others you see in there. Great job on all parts for keep thier composure! You could tell that the ATC guys were feeling a bit emotional once they had the fires burning again and were climbing.

Met a guy years ago who lost his daughter on a flight over cook inlet. He was ATC at the time and was talking to the pilot as the plane went down with his kid on board... Some years later, the son of the pilot on that flight got into bad weather piloting his pacer back from alsworth. Guess who the ATC guy was trying to talk him in to the airport..they same guy who had lost his daughter in the kids fathers plane. ATC had him headed home several times, but the pilot would not believe him that he had been blown off course that far and would not listen to ATC and kept resuming his planned heading, not the one ATC was giving him to get him home. Once again the guy at ATC had to listen as this guy flew his plane into the side of Denali 140+ miles off course. Was a pretty emotional dinner discussion as the guy was telling us the story on that one.

With regard to the Mitsubishi MU-2 and icing, here is a link to some pictures of the terrain the airplane was flying over...

http://www.telemark.net/randallg/photos ... revelstoke

start at about #80 to #72 in reverse order to fully appreciate the video.

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Love to see the radar track that they did have overlayed on Google Earth!

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