It's been interesting to watch, as usual.

I'm curious to see a flight test video soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks8R4kBmOhI

Pretty cool and imaginative.

Wow. Did it fly out there or did they truck it?

Halestorm wrote:Wow. Did it fly out there or did they truck it?

Flew it! I'm amazed that he was able to get it ready in time for Oshkosh. He has 47 or so hours on it already.

He is beyond amazing, OF COURSE he flew it there, what a bang up finish to the entire build. Can't wait to see his write-up on the flight, he's the current rock star of aviation, and deservedly so.

Gee, I wonder if he'll get this one off the ground in a 37kt crosswind like he did the last one! Flying Ass Clowns.

Woa! . Ass clowns . ! Classic . Not very constructive criticism . I do like the term ass clown though and use it frequently while sitting in traffic . Pretty sure Mr Patey isn’t one though .

Johntoo wrote:Gee, I wonder if he'll get this one off the ground in a 37kt crosswind like he did the last one! Flying Ass Clowns.

Haters gotta hate !

125 kts at 50% is what was mentioned. I'm not sure the approaches used are readily translatable to a maintainable production-ready aircraft that most people will be comfortable and able to fly safely. That isn't the point. It will be interesting instead to see how the combined approaches differentiate the Scrappy from simpler aircraft, and the imprint they will leave on other design efforts by the E-AB community in the future just as it has inspired Mr. Patey.

I'll never figure out why Mr. Patey draws so much criticism from people who probably can't even change their own oil, frankly. Building a business around a passion successfully is something that only a few people will achieve in their lifetimes. And pulling together a number of both novel and well-travelled features into an interesting near-scratch build is something that has nothing to do with a convenient and prominent example ripe for criticism. It's a flat out admirable effort and accomplishment. The speed of building, integration, and testing has been nothing short of unprecedented.

lesuther wrote:125 kts at 50% is what was mentioned. I'm not sure the approaches used are readily translatable to a maintainable production-ready aircraft that most people will be comfortable and able to fly safely. That isn't the point. It will be interesting instead to see how the combined approaches differentiate the Scrappy from simpler aircraft, and the imprint they will leave on other design efforts by the E-AB community in the future just as it has inspired Mr. Patey.

I'll never figure out why Mr. Patey draws so much criticism from people who probably can't even change their own oil, frankly. Building a business around a passion successfully is something that only a few people will achieve in their lifetimes. And pulling together a number of both novel and well-travelled features into an interesting near-scratch build is something that has nothing to do with a convenient and prominent example ripe for criticism. It's a flat out admirable effort and accomplishment. The speed of building, integration, and testing has been nothing short of unprecedented.

I agree 100% the guy is a phenomena. If you asked Boeing to build Scrappy it would take thousands of man hours over ten years. I think he defines what I admire most about American ingenuity and can do attitude. And such a modest and approachable guy who gives so much to GA. How many of us would have had the grace under pressure after the Draco mishap?? Hard for me to understand the haters.

Been following the build, and looking forward to flight videos and performance numbers, like everyone. I chuckle a little every time he calls it a "Cub" though

I live in the panhandle of Texas and fly in high crosswinds all the time. Didn't know I was a Ass Clown!!! Come on, enjoy the success of others and have pity when things go wrong. no one is perfect and crap does happen sometimes. We have all made mistakes and bad decisions and hopefully we live and learn. Doesn't mean it was wrong to do what we did all the time, just learn from it. It is your decision to do what you do. At least for now, the way America is turning it may not be long before we won't have these options and the gov may not allow us to enjoy flight or have these freedoms. We need to push each other to be our best and know that some of us will not succeed all the time, but that is not failure. not trying is failure. I like Scrappy. Push some limits and see what limits should be. Don't trust everyone that is trying to keep you in a box, just to make them feel equal!

I think its cool what he does. I would bet there are a lot of behind the scenes problems with the plane(s), that we never hear about. But, that's an experimental. When he wrecked Draco, I was shocked by how the whole thing seemed to disintegrate. Maybe that helps occupant survivability in a crash but makes me wonder how much abuse and rough air it could handle, especially long term.
I am, however, also sick of the flying cowboys. When I see a you tube video thats flying ass clowns, I don't watch it. Some of the stuff they do is cool, some is just over hyped, and I'm tired of the "hey look at me" b.s. Some of them are more tolerable than others.

We all make mistakes aviating. Patey is no different. I for one won’t armchair quarterback back his takeoff in draco. Patey is obviously infinite notches above the “like, subscribe” crowd. Nothing but good comes from a guy like him. I very much appreciate everything he does. He deserves to stand alone.

It's sad that the majority of this thread is responses to a single troll. Most well-adjusted people would never mention the mishap and just focus on the cool accomplishment at hand. Let's practice ignoring trolls

He’s incredible and a complete asset to GA. No doubt about it. I can see why the social media influencers would want to have him on their “like subscribe” team.

Nope, not a troll, just a realist. I heard about these guys, and decided to take a look at them and check them out. What I saw was a bunch of ACs flying together in what some would call a gaggle f---. They were, and probably still are, a midair accident waiting to happen. I know that because of my training. The appellation 'cowboy' applied to a pilot in my old life meant someone who flew with little regard for the rules, and common sense. And then i hear about the crash, and watched the video - you should too. No regard for the rules or common sense to try to take off as he did. Very lucky he's still around, i know some who aren't. And now I hear him referred to as a gift to aviation. Holy S! Worship him if you want, but don't do what he does if you care about your hide.

Regardless, his plane is cool, well thought out and innovative. His work ethic is impressive. That’s what this thread is about. If you’re mad about not being on a nerd social media flying team, then start a thread about that.

The engineering of the wing design is truly innovative. Even more amazing is how quickly he put this together. Haters love to hate and envy/jealousy are hard emotions for the unenlightened. I think Mike showed an incredible amount of humility after he crashed Draco. I know I have made my share of bad decisions in aviation and I admire him owning the mistake. He also seems like a happy go lucky guy who just loves GA. What is not to love about the guy. Scrappy is awesome.



Josh

Patey walks on water as far as I'm concerned. He built Scrappy and Draco IN HIS SPARE TIME, runs at least one very successful business, has a large family and a happy wife, juggles all that and still has time to make the videos??!! AND....he's humble and doesn't come off as an arrogant rich guy at all, and his knack for explaining complex subjects, to simpletons like me, without making me feel like a doofus, is much appreciated. He is the energizer bunny of sport aviation. This has nothing to do with the Flying Cowboy thing, that's all just a big hoot anyway, like being an Ohio Bush Plane Pilot (I'm one, got the sticker to prove it). I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disses him, is woefully uninformed and no doubt not remotely qualified to pass judgement on him.