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Propellers-be careful out there.....

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"It sounds like this is a combination of a bad procedure by the pilot and the passenger not properly realizing her proximity," Nance said. "One of the things I'd have to look at is why in the world a pilot permitted a passenger to board or deboard while a propeller was turning."


Doesn't that sound more like bad news reporting and at the very best qualifies as lousy research by whomever Nance is? It's common procedure and happens all over the world, all the time, generally without incident. Flight instructors getting out of planes and helicopters, passengers boarding and de-boarding in sightseeing operations, drop zones or spouses jumping out to open gates.

Usually pax should be briefed to approach and depart towards the back of the plane (O-2/337 & pushers excluded) or from the side. I was taught as a kid to do so, trying to remain within vision of the pilot at all times and not to approach without prior eye contact with the pilot. It becomes just as second nature as looking for airplanes prior to crossing active runways. I'd prefer the prop to be standing still, but properly briefed/ or with a guide, it can be done safely.

In the end the absolutely innocent party is the unknowing passenger.

Remember the two Chinese student pilots, flying a cross country together in CA illegally a while back? http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2010/09/01/1551829/family-of-chinese-student-killed.html One saw a ramper, figured they'd be in trouble and ran smack into the propeller.
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skywagon wrote:Andrew K, I'm out of Aero-Country too. I don't know Lauren, but do know some of the people that were involved. Lauren was seriously injured and is starting a long recovery. Here is a link to follow her progress: http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/laurenscruggs

Keep praying for her and her family.

Chris


Yeah more and more details are being released and I am sure I will hear even more when I get out that way, bad situation either way.

Glad to know I am not the only one from T31 on here. I figured that there must be others with some of the stuff flying in and out of there (Huskies, SCs, Skywagons, Maules, etc.).
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Courierguy's story on the 'Giraffe' thread/topic about cold-cocking his dog on landing reminded me of a dog-propeller incident that didn't have a happy ending.
This is a general 'how it happened' version. I am not going to call to confirm details and bring the memory back for the individuals involved.
This A&I's wife had a smallish beloved dog that the aircraft mechanic started taking to work with him. He kept a close eye on the dog around moving airplanes and moving propellers and since there were no problems over time he (mechanic) relaxed his vigilance and the dog became the 'hanger/shop dog that no one gave much thought to as to behavior as he had done so well. Then one day a static run up was being done and the motor was loud and the prop was loud, and there was that snapping/popping that some props do during a static run up. The dog reacted to that/all of that and ran to the offending noisemaker to snap back/bite the propeller and took the propeller square in the mouth. It removed the lower jaw completely, but the dog survived in a stunned state. The mechanic took the dog to his wife to say good-by and together they took the dog to the vet to be put down. VERY sad for both of them.

I would not post this sad story, but I do so as a warning to everyone who has dogs/animals around propellers.
Even if past behavior has been exemplary, their minds don't work quite the same as ours do and extra care and caution is worth the effort.

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Years ago we landed on a dirt ranch strip near Sundance, WY, and got the Skylane stuck in the mud from the melting snow that had flowed across the middle of the strip. We unloaded everything, jacked the wheels up, put landing mats under each of them, and then I cranked it up to "jump" it over the remaining mud with full flaps. I told Wife 1 to hold the kids and dog. Just as the airplane started really moving over the soft stuff, our dog ran in front. When I lost sight of her, I immediately pulled the throttle and mixture. Suddenly the dog ran out so I could see her, and I was so relieved! Turns out Wife 1 was holding the kids, but had told No. 1 Son, then about 7, to hold the dog, and he'd let go.

Our experience turned out OK, but kids, pets, adults--none seem to realize how dangerous a spinning prop is.

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