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Rans S4-5 or Fisher 202?

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Re: Rans S4-5 or Fisher 202?

S-12Flyer wrote:
Mister701 wrote:
S-12Flyer wrote:Here's one you might look into.
Folding wing with a trailer.

http://www.barnstormers.com/listing_ima ... ?id=931295

I saw that one. Not a flyer.


Sorry, it didn't mention that in the ad.

Yeah it's a model A with a #734 gross weight, engine issues, propeller issues and to make matters worse it's de-registered and shown as destroyed. It would be tempting at say $4000 or so but they have WAY too much money invested. I suspect this one will die a slow death and go to airplane heaven. Apparently Dean Wilson himself did some repair work to it recently and pronounced it good to go but it's still a project in my mind. I got one of those. I want a "fly now" sort of deal.

I'm thinking the Rans is either a scammer or the poor guy dropped dead. Absolutely silent. I did say in my initial contact that I wanted to see it and do an inspection.
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I've gotten in touch with the seller of the Rans. The wings are off and the doors are hidden someplace. He's an airline pilot and difficult to talk to to say the least. Still, it's worth taking a look. I've ordered the quicksilver fabric tester and I'll pull the exhaust and take a peek inside the cylinder as best I can. The Koala is a fly right now proposition with an A&P owner who likes to talk airplanes. What a contrast in shopping experience. Oh well, you don't have to have sensational conversational skills to sell an airplane and the Rans is the better deal. Too bad there's no way to FLY either one before purchase. Yadayada. I feel like Whee with the around in circles bit. I remember something a friend of mine who was on the run from the IRS said long ago; "Why should I send them any money? I don't even like those people". :roll:
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Screw this madness. I just ordered a Rotax 912 1484 big bore engine from Wayne. I'm gonna build my CH701 or die trying.

Building an airplane is like golf you know? 3/4 mental and 3/4 physical. I built a 3000' house while work working full time back in the '90s. I need to get my head out and re-find that ethic. Wish me luck

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Hang in there Dan. I hit the wall when I was building my RV-4. I was about 90 percent done but just plateaued. I didn't even want to look at that pig again! But I muscled through and got it done. No matter what you're building, that plane is so worth it when you're done. I've built two now and... well that's enough for me. :D
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Dan,
I sold my home and property of 28 years, in the middle of my current (and second S-7, 6 th plane total) build of my now flying S-7S. 10 days after listing, it sold, and 10 days after that I had to move out. I bundled up the parts, and hung it from a neighbors barn roof. Then I moved onto 40 acres of raw ground a mile or so away, and hauled water from the creek and town, crapped outside, and gradually over the next few months got the well in, the septic system, the shop/hangar foundation, and then finished it all (3,000 sq. ft. insulated, finished out, full bath, not just a tin box). Then I snapped lines on the floor of the hangar, the size of the finished plane, and I used some of the concrete form work material to rough in a small apartment in the hangar, VERY small, but better then the 35 year old borrowed travel trailer I was camping out in. With the upstairs shop (and full bath with laundry room, hog heaven after roughing it) finished I dove right back in and knocked out the plane in the next 3 or 4 months, test flew it, landed it back at what was now home, and for the first time put it in the hangar. I subbed out the waste plumbing and the electrical, everything else I did myself with very occasional help (and with the help of my radio remote controlled crane). :D The other big help was the money was there to keep going, from selling the previous property, no lag time while making more!

THEN, I started on the house, got it all done in 2 or 3 months, and tore out the temp hangar apartment along the way. So about 1.5 years after moving mid build onto this raw ground I had everything built, including the plane, oh yeah, I was working (crane work) 20 or 30 hours a week during this whole time, plus snowboarding in the winter. I honestly don't know how I did it, not until it was all done and enough people exclaimed as to how much happened so quick, did I realize I had indeed kicked it's ass and made it happen, all because I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO FLY! That was the motivation, after the plane was flying, and I was still somewhat roughing it in the hangar temp. apt., I didn't care, as I was back in the air, all else was secondary. I would have never worked that hard, so long term, if I had bought "something to fly in the meantime".

Since then, with nothing else needed built, I've been flying around 200 hours a year, and life is back to being a lot of fun, which is of course the payoff. :P
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That's a great description, CG, of the single mindedness of getting stuff done. Great story, and very encouraging too. I've sold the rental, They tell me that I should expect an offer on my lot in Port Townsend soon. Our house is free and clear. Life is good. Time to get to work.
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