Robertson 185s and the MOSAIC rule
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Wondering if Robertson 185s would qualify under the new LSA MOSAIC?
I don’t need it personally, but would increase the value I’d wager
My understanding is the main cutoff is VS of 54kts or less
https://airfactsjournal.com/2023/08/fiv ... -aviation/ In the manual I have shows this

But also shows this

Haven’t had my coffee yet, but
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When I read the NPRM, I understood it to say that only and aircraft originally certified to have a clean stall speed of less than 54 knots calibrated airspeed could be flown under LSA rules. Aircraft that used post certification mods to achieve this would not qualify.
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I must have missed that part
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Don't quote me on this, but I thought the max gross on the Mosaic was 3000 lbs., which would not allow the 185 anyway. Guess a search of the proposed rules is needed.
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"about 3,000 pounds"......
"MOSAIC ditches the current LSA weight limit of 600 kilograms (1,320 pounds) and replaces it with “performance-based” measures such as a 54-knot maximum clean stall speed (Vs1) that will allow airplanes with gross weights up to about 3,000 pounds to be operated by sport pilots."
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https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... t%20pilots.
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On the max stall speed, keep in mind the difference between calibrated (NPRM says 54 kts calibrated) and indicated (your chart says 53 kts indicated).
Another potential limiting factor for a 185 is the seating capacity. NPRM says an aircraft cannot be considered light sport unless it has 4 seats or fewer. An aircraft with original seating capacity greater than 4 seats does not qualify and can't be made to qualify by simply removing the extra seats. It must have been certified / manufactured as having 4 seats or less. I think that rules out most 185's except for some of the early models.
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