Im not in the video, I have never landed there, not even as a passenger.
What about coming from the trees side and try a touch and go, and land it if it goes nice? Continue flight if not.

If all the terrain is like what is in the video, probably doesn't matter a lot the altitude he is flying. He'll be at that altitude soon if his engine dies. Would just save a minute or two of knowing your going to crash into the tree tops.

That video really makes me feel spoiled. Here, I usually fly at 2000+ AGl and there is always a field or road around. Even when I'm in the mountains there is usually a meadow in sight. Doesn't look like you guys have that option down there. Good Luck!!!

Motoadve, might just want to do a touch and go the first time without trying to stop. Indecision kills, so just do a practice run once and see how it goes.

You should not have any problem there. If you are rolling out and it looks a little to long, just steer it into that tall grass, that should do the trick.

motoadve wrote:This guy operates this runway everyday more than once per day, he tries to save fuel, and his base airport is about 20 miles NE of this runway, so he doesnt climb much and do a direct flight to this runway.
At $7.00 per gallon and he is 1 hr from the next airport with fuel.He is trying to be as economical as possible to survive in his bussines, although he has no competitor, he is the only one who goes there commercially.

It is all virgin jungle all around it , it wouldnt make a difference if he is 1,000ft higher , no where to go in an emergency, maybe more time to sort out a problem, that's all.

Yo go down in that jungle and will be years before you are found, a C182 went down and was found 20 years later by some hikers exploring the National Park.

The point is, MOST "engine failures" are actually failures of the pilot to keep the engine running, due to fuel exhaustion, carb ice, etc, etc. Having a thousand feet or two to sort out a restart may well mean the difference between life and death in that kind of country.

I've spent thousands of hours flying low, because what I was doing with the airplanes required that I fly low. That said, I can go through an engine restart checklist in about two seconds if the engine burps.

Those who fly around very low needlessly or "because they'll wind up in the trees anyway" are asking for trouble. Altitude is your friend, and granted, if you've got a hundred miles of that kind of stuff to fly over, your odds of surviving an ACTUAL engine failure are not great.

I read a study once that said that in some 40 % of the fuel exhaustion caused accidents, there was useable fuel in the airplane when it crashed. The pilot just didn't know how, or have time to get it to the engine.

Fly low if you must, but practice those engine restart procedures, and memorize them.

MTV

motoadve wrote:What about coming from the trees side and try a touch and go, and land it if it goes nice? Continue flight if not.

That's the general rule for all landings!

How bout an update? Did you go in yet & how was it?

I flew over it , here are a couple of videos.
Didnt land because had the plane with 4 people and cargo.

After review of the video, I think Im more comfortable to come from the sea.

Go to minute 1.50 in the video




Another

Will you just go land there already! I bet you find it better than you think. Good on ya for being cautious...When you land there, give us a surf report. Waves look good!

Took a long time, Landed there today, lots of fun.
Here some videos.
Im glad I trained, its a confidence builder.
I kee forgetting to raise the flaps after landing

Moto,

That puts the Bush in Bushflying and the Bad in you know where!

Stunning!

Rocket

Landing number 2

Nice work Moto-

Why are you still running the hub caps and little tires???

A set of 850's on there and your fired up! Heck 850x10's and your landing on the beaches!

Did you put the Sportsman on so you can get into the short little paved strips? I didn't think so. Sacrifice the 5knts and get some tires. You will wonder why you waited so long.

AKT

If from the mountains as soon as over the trees reduce all power and do a steep dive or shallow

I'd be careful with steep dives to lose altitude to land. Most guys that do this to lose much altitude build up too much speed, then are going to fast to land, particulary if the strip is on the shorter side. Tough to beat a good stabilized aproach.
Gary

I would put the tires in a heartbeat looks even cooler to me.
Problem in Costa Rica you are not allowed to land in a beach or river bed or grass flat area, even not allowed in an ultralight strip.

Has to be a certified strip, and those that are short and grass are mowed.

So the big tires would be just for looks here, I wish I could be allowed more freedom to land everywhere.

Nice looking strip and congrats on finally landing there

Either direction looks fine for landing there although, depending on the wind, I prefer to land uphill. However, there doesn't look to be much of a slope on that strip really.

This is the kind of madness that happens in third world countries.
The local air taxi guy wouldnt move his plane thinking I will be competition to his operation.
Landed in anyways.
He said no one else lands there and thought I wouldnt (after radio , fly by and phone calls).
He was pissed I landed, I was more pissed at him.

motoadve wrote:This is the kind of madness that happens in third world countries.
The local air taxi guy wouldnt move his plane thinking I will be competition to his operation.
Landed in anyways.
He said no one else lands there and thought I wouldnt (after radio , fly by and phone calls).
He was pissed I landed, I was more pissed at him.

That's a pretty dick move on his part.

shortfielder wrote:

If from the mountains as soon as over the trees reduce all power and do a steep dive or shallow

I'd be careful with steep dives to lose altitude to land. Most guys that do this to lose much altitude build up too much speed, then are going to fast to land, particulary if the strip is on the shorter side. Tough to beat a good stabilized aproach.
Gary

I agree... can't tell you how many times at Johnson creek I've seen people dive at the approach end from too high only to float halfway down the runway before touching down... I've seen two wind up in the trees that way....one slammed it on busting the gear when he saw the end coming , and the other couldn't decide to land or go around when he stalled 50 feet above the last 100 feet of grass...and in the words of my old instructor who told me 28 years ago..."if you have to dive to land at an airport or strip you've already screwed up your approach"..