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"Show Me Your Hard Core Mountain Landing & Takeoff Spot"

Did you fly somewhere cool, take photos, and feel like telling the tale to make us drool from the confines of our offices? Post them up!
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Re: "Show Me Your Hard Core Mountain Landing & Takeoff Spot"

"akflyer2001"Great pics, I would love to fly that plane.

Ken

Thanks, I am glad you like the pictures, Its a fun airplane to fly!
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Here are some pictures I found in my picture files from last winter to share with you BCP's.
Some of you BCP's that know UT County might recognize the Mountains in the background in the first picture!

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(Just a quick note) I will be occasionally changing out/updating some pictures on the previous post for for this topic for awhile.
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MountainFlyer;
I must have not been paying attention, but if you have already described the process of how you decided a Pawnee (right??) would be just the thing for back country flying, man I'd love to hear it again! That is really thinking outside the box, something I always like seeing and hearing about in any activity.

The first thing that comes to my mind: dusters have great crash protection, right? And what do you keep in the hopper space? A couple of very cool things right there. I was hoping to see you/it at JC so I wouldn't have to publically ask....does it have vg's, is it still certified, touchdown speed, and any other advantages over "regular" airplanes for mountain landings?

Here's a 8600' site I have landed twice, last time on the way to JC. NOT in the Frank. You land and takeoff the side pictured, and really don't want to overshoot the landing, but the takeoff is cake.Image
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Courierguy,
sorry you could not make it to the JC Super Cub Fly-in last month, it was a fun time, a great group to hang-out and do some flying with! It just goes by to fast! Looking at your 8600 ft. Mountain ridge top picture, I have already picked my spot from your picture to land on it! You know what's on my mind! Getting to some of your questions about the "Yellowhawk", officially this airplane was parts of a Pawnee that have been modified and redesigned into a one of a kind airplane, named the "Yellowhawk". It is certified Experimental Exhibition. Here are some of the changes: 300 H.P. Lyc 0-540 engine with a 90 in. McCauley propeller, two baggage compartments to carry camping equipment, one is were the the hopper tank was. It has redesigned tail-feathers, VG's, wing tip extensions, aileron and flap extensions, and the ABW's to let me land on some of the rugged mountains out there when Mother Nature cooperates! It's just a heavy duty/ rugged low wing Super Cub with lots of power! Fun!!
I will tell you the rest of the story on this airplane if we meet up on a mountain top or over camp fire some time!
James, Mountainflier
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Mountainflier wrote:(Just a quick note) I will be occasionally changing out/updating some pictures on the previous post for for this topic for awhile.


Don't do that. POst sequential posts if needed. More pictures for the rest of us to gawk at!
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Mntflyer-

What is "heavy" as you say. Purely curious???

Whats your useful load in that thing? I too find your plane damn cool =D>

No wind, sea level and standard conditions. What is your TO and Landing distance, average in her?

Also curious about your V speeds with all the mods you have.

Thanks

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OK Mtn Flyer, that satisfies my curiosity somewhat, thanks. You got an invite into my 400' strip south of Pocatello anytime you're passing through, 12% grade so not as short as it sounds, you know the drill!

I just got back from a quick trip to Montana, and lifted off with a 24 oz. cup of to go coffee. Doing without the morning joe is not an option, if I can help it. So of course a couple of stops were required on the 3.5 hour flight home. What a huge advantage, and I'm being serious here, of having the equipment and experience to be able to set down in so many different areas and do it safely and easily. We got any urologist's (?) here?? It can't be good to hold it so long, :roll: nowadays I don't, I just land. =D> I've packed one of those PortaJon plastic bottles for years, and have never been able to utilize it while sitting down/flying, I gave up, now I just land. Both of these were in Montana, one very close to the continental divide, pretty low there though, only about 7K. I could and maybe should have landed another 8K+ ridgeline that was as smooth and inviting, but I didn't realize until home that the ridge line I passed on is the actual Montana/Idaho border, and once landed on the narrow ridge one wing would have been in Idaho, one in Montana, that's be a first.....next time.ImageImage
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Don't do that. POst sequential posts if needed. More pictures for the rest of us to gawk at!

Okay, as long as Zane doesn't mind.
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[quote="aktahoe1"]Mntflyer-

What is "heavy" as you say. Purely curious???

Whats your useful load in that thing? I too find your plane damn cool =D>

No wind, sea level and standard conditions. What is your TO and Landing distance, average in her?

Also curious about your V speeds with all the mods you have.

Thanks

AKT

aktahoe1,
Referring to heavy duty, the airframe is larger with bigger tubing design to carry 1200 lbs. in the hopper tank with a legal gross weight of 2900 lbs.. If you loaded a Super Cub with 1200 lbs. in a hopper tank plus pilots weight and fuel, and worked the the airplane on a regular basis you would probably bend the airframe. Talking to the guy's that use to own and work this airplane, they told me they use to carry 1500 lbs. in the hopper tank quite often. The Yellowhawk useful load is just under 1300 lbs.. The lowest elevation that I have had this airplane at is 4200 ft. out on the Great Salt Lake, it uses about 300 ft. to land and takeoff at about 6000 ft. elevation and quits flying at about 43 M.P.H. G.S. on the GPS with no wind at same altitude.
I still have a list of mod's I want to do to it, larger flaps, move ailerons farther out on the wing, shed about 100 lbs. off the airplane, and nitrious oxide system for high alt. takeoffs are some of them! It just money and down time that slows me down from doing all of them. I try to do a few on the list every year. I am glad you guy's are liking this airplane! So far it been good to me and I am having a lot of fun with it up in the mountains! Thanks, mountainflier
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courierguy wrote:OK Mtn Flyer, that satisfies my curiosity somewhat, thanks. You got an invite into my 400' strip south of Pocatello anytime you're passing through, 12% grade so not as short as it sounds, you know the drill!

I just got back from a quick trip to Montana, and lifted off with a 24 oz. cup of to go coffee. Doing without the morning joe is not an option, if I can help it. So of course a couple of stops were required on the 3.5 hour flight home. What a huge advantage, and I'm being serious here, of having the equipment and experience to be able to set down in so many different areas and do it safely and easily. We got any urologist's (?) here?? It can't be good to hold it so long, :roll: nowadays I don't, I just land. =D> I've packed one of those PortaJon plastic bottles for years, and have never been able to utilize it while sitting down/flying, I gave up, now I just land. Both of these were in Montana, one very close to the continental divide, pretty low there though, only about 7K. I could and maybe should have landed another 8K+ ridgeline that was as smooth and inviting, but I didn't realize until home that the ridge line I passed on is the actual Montana/Idaho border, and once landed on the narrow ridge one wing would have been in Idaho, one in Montana, that's be a first.....next time.ImageImage


Courierguy,
You will have to PM me your Lat./Lon. to your place, thanks for the invite! How far out of Pocatello are you? I use to live in Pocatello about 30 years ago . I still know the area fairly well, Looks like you are having a lot of fun flying that Rans around the mountains up there, neat looking airplane! Nice pictures on the rolling hills and mountains, it looks like you are up and out of Lima and Clark Canyon Res. area in those pictures. Fly safe! talk to you soon. Mountainflier
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Good call! One picture was north of the Clark res and the other just N of Monida Pass.

BTW I see the guy with the Gulfstream, who enlarged the old Dell strip into a 6K plus paved airport, is now building a hangar. With his dough, you gotta wonder why he waited so long, but then I remembered this is just one of his homes, probably calls it his Montana cabin (the locals call it DisneyLand, a couple stories I heard was it has the largest ever single piece of glass in a private residence, special made and for sure special shipped, a marble bathroom done by flown in artisians from "the old country", almost completed then ripped out and re done as the color was a bit off), so getting a pretty normal looking hangar put up would seem to be no big deal. The roof was just going on, half done. A Maule and a 180 were parked there, I think the pilots may have walked to the cafe as the planes didn't appear to be tied down. Too bad they (local sheriff) put an end to landing on the road right by the cafe, it's a fair walk! I've always wanted to overfly the place, but have yet to find it, it's back in the mountains to the west somewhere, and I'm always in a hurry it seems when passing through.

A picture of the new cross wind strip: I cut it in after a main runway landing that came very close to exceeding my xwind capability, the day I came back from JC this year in all that wind. The main is 400', the x probably about 250', at 5400'. I'll pm you the lat/long.Image
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Dang it Tom, I so want to come fly with you for a couple days!
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Here is another batch of pictures to look at! Some of theses pictures are from the same location at different angles or times from previous posted pictures. Mountainflier

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Just keeping a cool thread alive...I know that some of you have more pics to share here...

The strip here runs left to right (landing) with a decent up hill to the top. TKO is downhill opposite direction
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It sure is fun flying with the cubs...and one lonely Maule... :lol: 9100' South circuit
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This one is just over 13,500 down on the east side. It does not count however as i did not get out and take a photo with the plane sitting there. I just wanted to land and get back in the air ASAP. My palms are still sweating from this one as I think about it. It was a real nice up hill landing, very smooth but still took up a bunch of field rolling out. Getting back off was easy...send it for drop off... #-o
Landed 50' or so just past the lowest snow patch in the photo. Rolled up to the really tiny piece of snow above that. I still have dreams about this one...seriously...my ground speed felt like I was going about 100 or so on this one...
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Prop and spinner arrived today!!! I am getting very close!

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No rush - you are right on time - just under 10 more days to go. 8 working days is about right, I'm guessin!

'Greg

aktahoe1 wrote:Just keeping a cool thread alive...I know that some of you have more pics to share here...

Prop and spinner arrived today!!! I am getting very close!

AKT


soyAnarchisto wrote:July 26th, 7:56PM
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You don't know how bad I want to go heli-skiing!

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aktahoe1 wrote:Just a bump...

Some of you have been here...this one took A LOT of fly bys to muster the thought that it was a good idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DGL3hU_h0


This place is cool, you have never seen so much iron pyrite (fools gold), it's everywhere... Cool spot Kevin..
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"aktahoe1"Just keeping a cool thread alive...I know that some of you have more pics to share!

This one is just over 13,500 down on the east side. It does not count however as i did not get out and take a photo with the plane sitting there. I just wanted to land and get back in the air ASAP. My palms are still sweating from this one as I think about it. It was a real nice up hill landing, very smooth but still took up a bunch of field rolling out. Getting back off was easy...send it for drop off... #-o
Landed 50' or so just past the lowest snow patch in the photo. Rolled up to the really tiny piece of snow above that. I still have dreams about this one...seriously...my ground speed felt like I was going about 100 or so on this one...
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Prop and spinner arrived today!!! I am getting very close!

AKT

Aktahoe1,
The sloping mountain top that you landed on at 13,500 ft. in the picture, could you PM the lat. and Long. to that area.
Maybe we can get together sometime and fly our mountain machines back up there and get some nice pictures. Of course Coyote Ugly or any of you other guy's that wanted to get up close to some high altitude mountains are welcome to come along. A place like this in the picture, the winds blow more often then not, the conditions can get harsh without any notice at these altitudes! It looks like the terrain slopes up another 500 ft. or so in the back ground in the picture, over 14,000 ft. elevation! Thanks! Mountainflier
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Boy that sure looks like fun you guys have any idea how my tubocharged 185 would do at some of these high altitude places
you guys go. Sure like to try some of them out.
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Today I was in a situation that required nerves of steel and lightening reflexes, plus all the power I had available. My pulse rate got way up there and stayed up for some time. There was zero room for error and the consequences of a screwup were extremely severe. Any mechanical failure would have been a certain major problem.

That's right, I had to brave the Salt Lake City area freeway traffic, damn intimidating for this rural dweller. Truckers call it the Mormon 500 (no offense meant). Seriously, I could feel my elevated pulse rate (usually below 60), I had sweaty palms, the whole bit. This morning during a short local flight before hitting the road, I landed this site again, I posted this same picture earlier, the point being while setting up and landing this knob top (short final from the 4:00 position) my palms were dry, pulse not elevated, and I wasn't scared for my life. And I wasn't even in the SLC area during rush hour, but probably the best time there is, and I still got scared :shock: I gues.s it's whatever you get used to, and I sure as hell have lost my big city driving skills after 38 yrs in Idaho, rural Idaho at that. the punch line is the SUV I went down to buy sold before I got there, so all for nothing!Image
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