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Hello all! I love to read other's discussions of survival pack ideas. I'm kind of a survival gear geek. I've taken classes both from Cody Lundin of Aboriginal Living Skills and Emergency Response International out of Washington. I highly recommend both of them.

http://www.alssadventures.com/
http://www.eri-online.com/

Always looking for good ideas.
So, what's in your pack? Vest? Backpack on seat?
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"A pilot doesn't understand the real limitations of his craft until he's instructed in it. Try as he may, he can never duplicate intentionally the plights that a student gets him into by accident." -Charles Lindbergh

I use the kit that prepared pilot has. http://www.preparedpilot.com/

I have a friend that had a bunch of stuff that he put together and whenever he went to Baja or some out of the way place he would raid his survival stuff for snacking. Most of the time he had nothing cus he snacked it out. So his answer to survival is to carry cat food cus he knows that it will alway be there, he will not snack it out.

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Slainte,

This has been talked about a few times already, but we never do anything just once around here. Here are some other threads to give you some ideas:

Minimum Gear:
http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1232

PLBs (and other Survival Gear)
http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=253

Always room for more!
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qmdv wrote:
So his answer to survival is to carry cat food cus he knows that it will alway be there, he will not snack it out.

Tim


What brand of cat food? :lol:

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Cat food and one of those nifty take apart survival .22's. They taste like chicken don't they? :lol:
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I also recommend the best survival school in the world, USAF SERE.

http://www.gosere.com/videos/sere-training-video.htm
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a64pilot wrote:Cat food and one of those nifty take apart survival .22's. They taste like chicken don't they? :lol:


So a64pilot, do you use the cat food to bait in the cat and then employ the .22 to procure dinner? Or are you suggesting that we eat the cat food :shock: and save the .22 for when we run out of the canned stuff and are too hungry to continue living?
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Christina, can anyone go to USAF SERE?
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a64pilot wrote:Cat food and one of those nifty take apart survival .22's. They taste like chicken don't they? :lol:


So a64pilot, do you use the cat food to bait in the cat and then employ the .22 to procure dinner? Or are you suggesting that we eat the cat food :shock: and save the .22 for when we run out of the canned stuff and are too hungry to continue living?


All I know is that I ain't eating catfood, so I guess I would have to eat whatever does :twisted:
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Slainte wrote:Christina, can anyone go to USAF SERE?


I'm sure there are NO survival schools that *anyone* can go to. As far as I know, ALL survival schools require some minimum level of health, physical fitness and mobility.

What would you expect anyway???
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Christina, I've survived a couple so I know I must have some fitness level above a turtle. What I was referring to was the fact that it is a USAF school. Can any civilian walk into it? Any info on it?
I couldn't get your video to run. I'll try again.
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"A pilot doesn't understand the real limitations of his craft until he's instructed in it. Try as he may, he can never duplicate intentionally the plights that a student gets him into by accident." -Charles Lindbergh

Last time I checked, any civilian Federal government employee could attend the AF survival schools, but they raised their prices to non AF types so much that I doubt anyone would attend them.

FWS quit sending people to Cool School for this reason. That was ten years ago, and the price went up to $1800 per person.

There are good schools out there that cost less.

It isn't rocket science, after all.

Strip down to your underwear and a Buck knife, and get dropped off in the wilderness for six days. Preferably not winter......If you survive, you qualify.

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mtv wrote:Strip down to your underwear and a Buck knife, and get dropped off in the wilderness for six days. Preferably not winter......If you survive, you qualify.


That's very similar to their urban survival course, survive six days without getting arrested. :lol:
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mtv wrote:Strip down to your underwear and a Buck knife, and get dropped off in the wilderness for six days. Preferably not winter......If you survive, you qualify.


That's very similar to their urban survival course, survive six days without getting arrested. :lol:


From a survival standpoint... I'll take wet, naked, middle of winter, in the wilderness, over being dumped off in some inner city slum any day of the week.

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Here's an interesting alternative to EPIRs and ELTs:

http://www.globalcomsatphone.com/spot/

Anyone have an inside scoop on these?

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Savannah-Tom wrote:Here's an interesting alternative to EPIRs and ELTs:

http://www.globalcomsatphone.com/spot/

Anyone have an inside scoop on these?

tom



It would be really nice if it was a two way system but it only sends messages. It doesn't receive anything.
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Savannah-Tom wrote:
Anyone have an inside scoop on these?
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I've been testing the SPOT Satellite Messenger for the past two months and it works great. I have made a few suggestions to the manufacturer on improvements. Some of them have already been implemented. I now have a production unit that I have been putting through its paces and it works great too. Of course the ability to summon help to your exact location via satellite in an emergency is valuable. I also love being able to request help via satellite from my aviation buddies and mechanic without getting the local sheriff, FAA, and news media responding. My wife loves that I can now check in with her and let her know I arrived safely at any back country airstrip even though there is no cell coverage. If I activate the track mode she can also track my progress on the internet. Its kind of like personal flight following.

The messages you send to friends and family can be received on either a cell phone as a text message or as an email. Either way they contain your present GPS coordinates. The emails also have a link that brings up your location on Google maps.

According the the latest news from the manufacturer dealers should have them to ship out to customers starting November 7th. The MSRP is $169.99 but I will be selling it, at least initially, for $149.99.

I'll try to most a more thorough report and pictures in a few days.
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Christina Young wrote:
Slainte wrote:Christina, can anyone go to USAF SERE?


I'm sure there are NO survival schools that *anyone* can go to. As far as I know, ALL survival schools require some minimum level of health, physical fitness and mobility.

What would you expect anyway???
So your saying that if us overweight undersexed BCP' ers get in a fix and need survival skills then we are out of luck cause we couldn't pass the physical to get into survival school??? :roll:
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Prepared Pilot wrote:I've been testing the [url=http://www.preparedpilot.com/]SPOT Satellite Messenger for the past two months and it works great.

It wasn't completely clear how to interpret the subscription charge on the prepared pilot site. Is that $99/*yr* w/ shorter and longer term options to come?

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