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Tail dragger techniques 170

Pretty new to tail draggers, getting close to 30 hrs now, lots to learn.

Few questions.
Taxi and ground roll on gravel bars, land tail low keep the tail light, pushing yoke down, that gets elevator closer to the rocks, so when tail wheel touches down, pull back on the yoke? or keep the tailwheel light on ground roll and taxi?

Braking, Landing tail low, push yoke a bit , touch down, I am on the mains, lower the tail for braking? Apply light braking when on the mains? (tried that and was a bit scary).

Any tips advice or critique is welcomed.
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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

I'd get some flying in with Jon, he knows his stuff- esp in 170's.
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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

Larry, what you are doing using AOA or apparent rate of closure to decelerate ala three point and then level the fuselage just before touchdown works quite well on all surfaces.
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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

In the video, the first landing was three point. On that surface, probably not a big deal. On a surface you don't know....NOT a good deal.

I like to get the tail high, airplane almost level on potentially rough or narrow surfaces, so I can see where I'm going, and if there are things I need to dodge. Nice thing about the 170 is that it has arguably the best forward visibility of almost any tailwheel airplane out there.

So, I touch tail low (hopefully a few inches off the surface), transition to tail up, often with braking, so I can see where I'm going. When the tail starts to come down, I reverse the yoke to full aft to keep the tail planted, particularly if there's any wind.

Braking can get twitchy, so be careful. By using symmetrical, careful braking, you can bring the tail up and modulate attitude without using much elevator authority. But, that's a dance that has to be done very carefully and with lots of practice.

Generally, if I don't NEED aggressive braking, I don't use same.....too many ways to get an oops there. But, good to practice in controlled environment.

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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

I see no flaws in your technique. Very smooth!
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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

Love the paint scheme on that 170. Flying looks perfect.
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Re: Tail dragger techniques 170

Excellent video (as always)!

I'd second what Mike Vivion said, and add a comment on takeoffs:

What I've found works well in the 170's I've owned (an A model in the past and currently a '48) when taking off on rough-ish stuff is to keep the tailwheel a few inches off the ground, and then hold that attitude till it flies off (in the '48 and the A model, control pressures evolve in a weird way since there's no mass balancing of the elevator - IIRC they fixed that for the B). In rough (and/or draggy) stuff the airplane will break ground a little earlier and will be lighter (and therefore gentler) on the mains during the roll. Then I accelerate in ground effect, dumping excess flaps as appropriate. Maybe the best way to think of it is the reverse of your second landing shown -- that attitude that you had before you got the tailwheel down is near ideal for the takeoff roll in junk.

The 170 has about the best visibility of any TW I know of. That said, I'm assuming you've walked the takeoff area and cleared it of hazards, so you can concentrate on getting the airplane flying with minimum thrash/bang/bounce rather than having to dodge stuff during the takeoff roll (as you might on landing.)

You've only got the one takeoff in the video, but it looks like the TW was pretty high.

YMMV, and please keep posting these.

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