Southern Pacific coast, Costa Rica

Nice! Nothing like a grass greaser.

Nosedragger wrote:Nice! Nothing like a grass greaser.

Isn't that a "grasser"?

Cary

Good one!!

Very nice.

Always go through the lowest hole in the trees, even if you don't think you need it. Rudder turn in low ground effect or let the nose go down a bit in the turn (if out of ground effect.)

Never go over anything you can safely maneuver around.

motoadve wrote:Southern Pacific coast, Costa Rica

Do you have the Wing X extensions or just Sportsman STOL only?

How long is that strip?

Impressive!

Only Sportsman and VGs no extensions.
Strip is about 1,200ft.

Different reaction here than in the Cessna forums where people are saying Im pushing it too far and soon they will see my tail number an statistic.

Ha Ha! I don't have enough blood pressure pills to tolerate those dipshits on Cessna or AOPA forums.

Gump

motoadve wrote:Only Sportsman and VGs no extensions.
Strip is about 1,200ft.

Different reaction here than in the Cessna forums where people are saying Im pushing it too far and soon they will see my tail number an statistic.

They are just jealous that we have all the fun! Your skills are excellent, and I can tell that you have confidence in your airplane and your abilities. The AOA indicator that allows you to fly the wing rather than the numbers has to bulid confidence in as well.

How has your flying and your confidence changed since you have installed the AOA?

AoA its great to have I like it a lot for manuvering on photoshoot flights
in canyons, landing on windy days is very handy, no more floating .
Every landing I dont look at the ASI anymore.
Short take off
Best climb
Best angle of climb

On short field approaches I setup the speed on long final with the AoA then just fly thew plane by feel and dont look at it anymore.

Its a great tool to have.

Apparent rate of closure and feel are more accurate than any instrument indication. The brain is much more capable than the computer. It just has to be exercised.

Really impressive - your skills, but also the versatility of 182s.
Do you recall what the gross weight and the density altitude were? I believe you mentioned somewhere that your plane is a 182P with the standard O-470!?

Very Nice. Textbook technique. You have to disregard the pavement pilot tavern talk. They don't get it! The Cessna and AOPA sites have their use, but not when it comes to flying short & Sweet. Would love to fly in and out of there in a Cessna 182 like that. What a great aircraft
and beautiful location for flying. Keep it up.

Richard

Standard O 470R
Sea level ,34 gallons of fuel ,2 people 50 pounds in the extended baggage compartment.
So close to about 2,400 pounds.

Contact that is definitely right, I dont look at anything inside the cockpit once in short final, just fly it by feel.

motoadve wrote:Standard O 470R
Sea level ,34 gallons of fuel ,2 people 50 pounds in the extended baggage compartment.
So close to about 2,400 pounds. [...]

Thank you. Your videos make me want to replace our 0-300 powered 172 with a 182...

motoadve wrote:Standard O 470R
Sea level ,34 gallons of fuel ,2 people 50 pounds in the extended baggage compartment.
So close to about 2,400 pounds.

Contact that is definitely right, I dont look at anything inside the cockpit once in short final, just fly it by feel.

For perspective, I was in Red Lodge MT with the same plane (182j) yesterday. Four of us, 33 gallons, DA of 8700', We used 2500' with the same short field technique. It took another 35 minutes to milk it to 12.5 for a trip across Yellowstone Lake and the Tetons. 1;08 to get 126 nautical into KDIJ, landed at 93 degrees..Gave her a bucket of oats and went for ice cream.

For perspective, I was in Red Lodge MT with the same plane (182j) yesterday. Four of us, 33 gallons, DA of 8700', We used 2500' with the same short field technique. It took another 35 minutes to milk it to 12.5 for a trip across Yellowstone Lake and the Tetons. 1;08 to get 126 nautical into KDIJ, landed at 93 degrees..Gave her a bucket of oats and went for ice cream.

Ugh.... And people used to think I was crazy for loving Winter in the Arctic.

It's only June, but I'm ready for December to get here! Below sea level DA's are your friend!

Gump

Nosedragger wrote: [...] I was in Red Lodge MT with the same plane (182j) yesterday. Four of us, 33 gallons, DA of 8700', [...]

Please excuse my ignorance, but I am interested in upgrading to a 182 an therefore want to learn a bit more about what real world performance I can realistically expect.
While I assume, that yours does not have a Sportsman STOL kit installed, it still appears as whether the POH suggests a shorter ground roll and a better climb performance than what you experienced at this DA and max. gross.

Is the POH indeed too optimistic and if so, by how much?

182p is the way to go!

Oliver wrote:

Nosedragger wrote: [...] I was in Red Lodge MT with the same plane (182j) yesterday. Four of us, 33 gallons, DA of 8700', [...]

Please excuse my ignorance, but I am interested in upgrading to a 182 an therefore want to learn a bit more about what real world performance I can realistically expect.
While I assume, that yours does not have a Sportsman STOL kit installed, it still appears as whether the POH suggests a shorter ground roll and a better climb performance than what you experienced at this DA and max. gross.

Is the POH indeed too optimistic and if so, by how much?

The POH is pretty good but it's rare that you don't have to interpolate something. Fat guys lie about their weight, the plane is going to turn 50 next year, I picked up a bird strike along the leading edge, it has a scimatar prop, we had a 10-15 knot quartering tailwind behind us but we were rolling down a 2% slope, we were on the East side of the Beartooths, and the wind was from the West....The POH said 2000 feet grossed out at 8500 feet, so I felt comfortable on a 4000 foot strip. Probably wouldn't have taken off on much less.

The departure was interesting with the wind. We had a little wheelie for a while, then hung an aileron into the wind, unglued one more wheel, rode the right main for about 500 feet before it came loose, then held it in ground effect for the length of the runway milking the flaps. Toured the golf course at 100 feet.

To answer your question, the poh is a decent guide if you add some fudge factor. It seems like it beats me more often than I beat it.