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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Aviation Administration on Tuesday proposed a record $1.9 million fine against an aerial photography company for flying drones in crowded New York and Chicago airspace without permission.

SkyPan International Inc. of Chicago operated 65 unauthorized flights between March 2012 and December 2014 in some of the nation's most congested airspace, the FAA said in a statement.

Forty-three flights were in the heavily restricted Class B New York airspace without air traffic control clearance, the agency said. Class B airspace is generally from the ground up to 10,000 feet in altitude, and often shaped like an inverted wedding cake with a 5-mile radius around a major airport at the bottom and an approximate 40-mile radius near the top.

The drones also lacked the two-way radio, transponder and altitude-reporting equipment required of manned aircraft.

Flying drones in violation of federal regulations "is illegal and can be dangerous," said FAA Administrator Michael Huerta. "We have the safest airspace in the world, and everyone who uses it must understand and observe our comprehensive set of rules and regulations."

Karl Brewick, a SkyPan production coordinator, said the company had not had a chance to review the fine proposal and had no immediate comment. SkyPan has 30 days to respond to the FAA. The company's website includes photos of the New York and Chicago skylines, and proclaims its drones are "ushering in a whole new world of aerial and panoramic photography."

The FAA proposed regulations this year to allow greater use of commercial drones. But SkyPan's operations probably still would be prohibited under the regulations because the flights took place at higher altitudes than would be permitted and over densely developed areas.

The previous largest fine for drone operations was $18,700, proposed in September against Xizmo Media, a New York video production company, the FAA said.

One reason the fine against SkyPan is so large is because FAA inspectors asked the company to stop making the flights but they continued anyway, FAA spokesman Les Dorr said.

Tuesday's announcement comes one day before an FAA official is expected to face tough questioning at a House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee hearing on what the agency is doing to address safety hazards created by drones flying too close to manned aircraft.

FAA officials have said they are receiving multiple reports daily of drones flying in the vicinity of airports and airplanes. Between November 2014 and August 2015, the FAA received over 700 reports by pilots of drone sightings, although questions have been raised about whether some reports involved birds mistaken for drones. Most of the flights appear to be unauthorized.

Hobbyists are allowed to fly drones as long as they stay 5 miles away from an airport and fly no higher than 400 feet. The FAA has granted about 1,700 permits to commercial operators with similar restrictions.

Also, the U.S. Forest Service has reported 18 unauthorized drone flights above or near wildfires, and that 10 of the incidents hampered aerial fire-fighting operations.

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Going to be interesting to see how the FAA can fine them for a time period the FAA had no authority during.

At best I expect this is a wide net they're casting that will narrow down to fining them for any flights between November 2014 (when the NTSB gave the FAA authority) and whenever the FAA granted Skypan permission for flights (December 2014).
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Question for helicopter pilots. Did they choose a kaman due to it being easier to adapt to remote control? ie counter rotating rotors and no tail rotor.

Two companies demonstrated Wednesday for federal officials how the remotely piloted K-MAX helicopter can be used to perform wildland firefighting scenarios, including cargo drops, single-target water drops and progressive line building with a bucket.

http://www.ktvz.com/news/feds-observe-d ... r/35840330
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That looks like a K-max, which the marines were using for a while I think. I think the marines chose it because no energy is wasted on directional control (i.e.- tail rotor), and because it didn't weigh much and could sling a heavy load.

So I assume these guys used it because it had already been developed and they just needed to demonstrate a new capability. Way cheaper that way.

Just guessing, though.
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Re: Today, In Drone News..... DRONE NEUTRALIZERS

This is what I'm talking about....

Need some hard attach points set up on the Savage.



This system is cool too



But when you really want to reach out there and "touch" them. (My personal favorite) DRONE VAPORIZER

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The funny thing is that the vaporizer might be more legal. The fcc has about the same sense of humor that the faa does.
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The FAA is twitching a bit on this...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-will-require-drones-be-registered-n446266

Of course, they will not be able to regulate those of us who build them ourselves unless they want to repeat the mistakes the ATF made to try and prohibit the distribution of CAD files for firearms.

Seems sort of pointless.
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lesuther wrote:The FAA is twitching a bit on this...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-will-require-drones-be-registered-n446266

Of course, they will not be able to regulate those of us who build them ourselves unless they want to repeat the mistakes the ATF made to try and prohibit the distribution of CAD files for firearms.

Seems sort of pointless.


They regulate people who build their own planes just fine. Same system. If you build your own drone, don't register and get caught then the penalties will hurt.
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If laws were pointless whenever someone didn't follow them, why have any laws at all?

I have no idea where the FAA is going with this, but unfortunately the industry hasn't been able to successfully regulate itself. If they'd just enforced the 400ft and line of sight rule in their controller software, things may have worked out differently.
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rw2 wrote:They regulate people who build their own planes just fine. Same system. If you build your own drone, don't register and get caught then the penalties will hurt.
Except the DOT secretary said it would require registration at the point of sale. Home made drones are far more capable, more fun, less expensive in general, and easy to build. And they don't have a "point of sale".

Not to mention the legions of kids like me that built RC balsa wood aircraft from kits and patterns from 2nd grade on up.

A registry? Meh. Won't help. In the case of an airspace violation, the operator will have to be found, and this has been an obvious and solvable problem with or without identifiable info on the drone itself. Then there are ownership transfers, etc. It is naive to put it lightly to expect kids to be able to keep up up that stuff. A registry is impractical for something tied to casual use for over half a century. But they will probably try.

Some problems don't have easy solutions, and doing something with registries should not be confused with doing something to solve those problems.
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I spent last week at the "Drone World Expo" in San Jose CA.

The lead off keynote address was "Avoiding the Traffic Jam: A government and Industry UTM Update". Speakers were:

FAA - Hoot Gibson, Senior Advisor on UAS Integration.
NASA - Parimal "PK" Kopardekar, Manager, Safe Autonomous System Operations (SASO) Project
Google X - Dr Dave Vos, Project Wing Project Lead
Verizon Ventures - David Famolari, Director

The most interesting takeaways from the keynote for me was that the FAA wants to move slowly and cautiously in integrating drones into the airspace. Google was exactly the opposite, saying the concern for drones in the airspace was over blown and that it would all work out safely. But most importantly Google is not willing to wait decades or even years. They are willing to wait months. Google made it a point, over and over and over and over, and was quite emphatic that they ARE NOT willing to wait years or decades. I certainly understood Google's comments as they won't wait.

I made it a point to look over at Hoot every time Google said this, trying to get a sense as to what he thought about Google's position, but Hoot would make a good poker player.
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Barnstormer wrote:I spent last week at the "Drone World Expo" in San Jose CA.

The lead off keynote address was "Avoiding the Traffic Jam: A government and Industry UTM Update". Speakers were:

FAA - Hoot Gibson, Senior Advisor on UAS Integration.
NASA - Parimal "PK" Kopardekar, Manager, Safe Autonomous System Operations (SASO) Project
Google X - Dr Dave Vos, Project Wing Project Lead
Verizon Ventures - David Famolari, Director

The most interesting takeaways from the keynote for me was that the FAA wants to move slowly and cautiously in integrating drones into the airspace. Google was exactly the opposite, saying the concern for drones in the airspace was over blown and that it would all work out safely. But most importantly Google is not willing to wait decades or even years. They are willing to wait months. Google made it a point, over and over and over and over, and was quite emphatic that they ARE NOT willing to wait years or decades. I certainly understood Google's comments as they won't wait.

I made it a point to look over at Hoot every time Google said this, trying to get a sense as to what he thought about Google's position, but Hoot would make a good poker player.

Maybe your state will give them a place to operate, as they did with driverless cars: http://phys.org/news/2015-11-big-texas-google-self-driving-cars.html
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Glad to see this drone safety video for beginners by the Flite Test crew. They have a large following of RC and multirotor enthusiasts. Pretty well done.

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http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/02/t ... cmp=hplnws


Sad news about a drone accident with a child.
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Hahaha, fighting fire with fire!
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Ha ha! I love the Wily E. Coyote-ness of that net solution.

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Now the drone pilots can not only kill pilots flying actual airplanes, they can kill themselves too!!! All with the control of an ipad.

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One-Passenger Drone Unveiled At Electronics Show
By Elaine Kauh


A Chinese startup company’s one-seat autonomous drone made waves this week at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. EHang unveiled a prototype of its 184 Autonomous Aerial Vehicle, which the company says is designed for short, low-altitude commutes. The battery-powered drone, directed by a touchscreen app in the cockpit, can fly for 23 minutes at an average speed of about 54 knots, as advertised on EHang’s website. A four-arm, eight-propeller system offers redundancy along with emergency systems that will direct the drone to land if there’s a malfunction, or allow the passenger to command a landing if a problem arises.

As far as amenities, there’s 4G Wi-Fi, a reading light and air conditioning, but it can’t carry much else besides a laptop case, as its luggage space can hold just a 16-inch bag. Whether the drone can navigate complex airspace, skylines, varying terrain or obstacles isn’t clear, but EHang implies it’s ironing out such issues with plans to have “low-altitude flight command centers” that would connect to the drones online.

EHang, founded in 2014 by Huazhi Hu, also makes and sells a series of consumer quadcopters called Ghostdrone. Safety motivated Hu to start the 184 project after he lost his best friend and then his helicopter instructor to aircraft crashes. He assembled a team of friends and colleagues and, as shown in the company’s video, went from clumsy test flights of a light drone that crashed to sophisticated processes that resulted in a capable prototype. "It's been a lifetime goal of mine to make flight faster, easier and more convenient than ever,” Hu said in the company’s announcement this week. "I truly believe that EHang will make a global impact across dozens of industries beyond personal travel.”
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