to be carried in an experimental aircraft, besides the credit card?
Thanks
Gary

The normal AROW stuff plus ops limitations which are part of the airworthiness certificate and the yearly program letter if required for racing/exhibition.

What does AROW stand for? Caution trick question.
DENNY

DENNY wrote:What does AROW stand for? Caution trick question.
DENNY

A Really Old Wanker.

Amirite???

I was hoping for a little more of a break down, ie, wt. and balance, registration, equip. list, medical, etc. I have tried a search hear and Google, but didn't find anything.
Gary

Airworthiness
Registration
Operations handbook (or owners manual)
Weight and Balance

Operations handbook (or owners manual) ?
I don't think so

"Operating limitations"

For the plane: Airworthiness, Registration, Operating Limitations, Weight and Balance.

If your flying a LSA using your PPL you just need your Pilots License and drivers license. Otherwise you need your PPL and medical.

OK, so terminology has changed a little bit. I drug out my PPL textbook from 1974, and it says "operator's handbook or Owners manual".

O is and always has becen "operating limitations" which are totally in the operator handbook, which is why it's a trick question

For experimentals you have both. Operating Limitations which are basically a boiler plate form letter from the FAA that are required to be on board as part of the airworthiness certificate. These are more generic experimental aircraft limitations for example how you must fly off Phase 1 requirements, or limits to geographical areas of operation, notifying ATC you're experimental etc... Also depending on when or who issued the Airworthiness Cert you may have been required to have a Operators Handbook/Manual describing all the aircraft specific limitations and procedures like most manufactured normal category aircraft. Speed and W&B limits and normal/emergency procedures.

whee wrote:If your flying a LSA using your PPL you just need your Pilots License and drivers license. Otherwise you need your PPL and medical.

You always need to carry some form of government issued photo identification when flying...Light Sport, Basic Med, or operating under a medical.

MTV

Thanks folks
So no equipment list and/or wt. and balance?

shortfielder wrote:Thanks folks
So no equipment list and/or wt. and balance?

W&B, yes. That’s the “W” in AROW that’s required.

aftCG wrote:O is and always has becen "operating limitations" which are totally in the operator handbook, which is why it's a trick question

I disagree.
The "operating limitations" are generally considered to be the "approved flight manual" as provided by the manufacturer.
For my Cessnas, it has been a single sheet of paper.
This AFM is often required by TCDS or minimum equipment list to be aboard.
Neither the "operating limitations" or the "approved flight manual" is the same as the owners manual.

I guess I'm an ancient wanker. I remember when it was ARROW with two Rs. Still have my Radio Station License from 1970. It's looking a little yellow though.

Remember I am asking in regards to experimental only, and am not sure they both have the same requirements.
Whee, you believe a PPL and medical are all that are required. Maybe I would be best to just call the EAA. I thought it was a simple question.
Thanks
Gary

Gary, I was just trying to help out. Sorry I forgot about the gov issue ID. Calling EAA would be the better idea rather than listening to anyone here.

shortfielder wrote: Remember I am asking in regards to experimental only, and am not sure they both have the same requirements.
Whee, you believe a PPL and medical are all that are required. ....

Are you asking about pilot only paperwork, or aircraft only paperwork, or both?

Aircraft: I believe ARROW still applies, even for an experimental, maybe only one R these days though.
Airworthiness, Registration (I have two- federal & state), Operating limitation, and Weight & balance.

Pilot: pilot certificate, plus a medical certificate.
LSA flight aka exercising sport pilot privileges, a medical is not required.
BasicMed can be alternative to a medical certificate when required.
BasicMed documentation doesn't need to be carried, although they say to keep it with your pilot logbook.
Along with my pilot certificate, I carry the little card you can print out after you complete the BasicMed online quiz.

Ultralight: nothing required as far as I know.

Here a couple FARs:

§91.9 Civil aircraft flight manual, marking, and placard requirements.

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, no person may operate a civil aircraft without complying with the operating limitations specified in the approved Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual, markings, and placards, or as otherwise prescribed by the certificating authority of the country of registry.

(b) No person may operate a U.S.-registered civil aircraft—

(1) For which an Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual is required by §21.5 of this chapter unless there is available in the aircraft a current, approved Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual or the manual provided for in §121.141(b); and

(2) For which an Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual is not required by §21.5 of this chapter, unless there is available in the aircraft a current approved Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual, approved manual material, markings, and placards, or any combination thereof.

From 91.203:

(b) No person may operate a civil aircraft unless the airworthiness certificate required by paragraph (a) of this section or a special flight authorization issued under §91.715 is displayed at the cabin or cockpit entrance so that it is legible to passengers or crew.

So, do you see anywhere in there that Experimental aircraft are exempted from these requirements? Nope...these all say Airplane or Rotorcraft, etc. That includes Experimentals.

Now, operating limitations: If your Experimental doesn't have operating limitations, as discussed above, they you can't legally fly over a densely populated area, for example:

(c) Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator in special operating limitations, no person may operate an aircraft that has an experimental certificate over a densely populated area or in a congested airway. The Administrator may issue special operating limitations for particular aircraft to permit takeoffs and landings to be conducted over a densely populated area or in a congested airway, in accordance with terms and conditions specified in the authorization in the interest of safety in air commerce.

Now, for the pilot:

§61.3 Requirement for certificates, ratings, and authorizations.

(a) Required pilot certificate for operating a civil aircraft of the United States. No person may serve as a required pilot flight crewmember of a civil aircraft of the United States, unless that person:

(1) Has in the person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization—

(i) A pilot certificate issued under this part and in accordance with §61.19;

(ii) A special purpose pilot authorization issued under §61.77;

(iii) A temporary certificate issued under §61.17;

(iv) A document conveying temporary authority to exercise certificate privileges issued by the Airmen Certification Branch under §61.29(e); or

(v) When operating an aircraft within a foreign country, a pilot license issued by that country may be used.

(2) Has a photo identification that is in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization. The photo identification must be a:

(i) Driver's license issued by a State, the District of Columbia, or territory or possession of the United States;

(ii) Government identification card issued by the Federal government, a State, the District of Columbia, or a territory or possession of the United States;

(iii) U.S. Armed Forces' identification card;

(iv) Official passport;

(v) Credential that authorizes unescorted access to a security identification display area at an airport regulated under 49 CFR part 1542; or

(vi) Other form of identification that the Administrator finds acceptable.

and:

(c) Medical certificate. (1) A person may serve as a required pilot flight crewmember of an aircraft only if that person holds the appropriate medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter, or other documentation acceptable to the FAA, that is in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft. Paragraph (c)(2) of this section provides certain exceptions to the requirement to hold a medical certificate.

That section goes on to note that under Sport Pilot regs, no medical is required.

So, as noted a couple times by others, your aircraft must have the following documents aboard at all times:

Airworthiness certificate
Registration
Operating Limitations (which may or may not be found in an AFM or POH)
Weight and Balance

The pilot must have in his or her possession:

A pilot certificate appropriate to the aircraft being flown
A government issued photo ID
A current medical, if appropriate to the operation/pilot

Again, nothing in the regs exempts an experimental aircraft from any of those requirements.

MTV