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Help i've just found and bought a 172 that's beatiful,but no paper work or n numbers, iknow it's an 67' h and it's missing it's wings and interior, thinking about trying to dissassemble and register it as a experimental , does anybody have any hints on this proceedure? i found wings that need rebuilt ,and i need to rebuild the engine (O-300) ,Any Help would be helpful, :? :roll:
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:shock:
With whats going on with experimental aircraft right now you may have better luck trying to get hit by lightning
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I would think the id plate should still be attached to the door frame or wherever Cessna puts them.

You could go from there to get the N number info an at least the 337 history.

TD
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Anytime I have bought a plane I get the history from the AOPA. It is fast, cheap, and it comes in PDF format so there is virtually no waiting. All you need is the N number or serial number.
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Here's a link to the Maule forums which we just went through this question. Read the link and see what you think. Chances are you won't get it passed. http://maulepilots.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=454
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Dear Mr. Goad:
>
> This message is to inform you of changes to Federal Aviation
> Administration (FAA) procedures concerning certification of
> Amateur-Built Aircraft. Change 3, to FAA Order 8130.2F, Airworthiness
> Certification of Aircraft and Related Products, was released on April
> 18, 2007. The change includes clarification of certification
> requirements for amateur-built aircraft and affects your ability to
> obtain an amateur-built aircraft airworthiness certificate for your
> type-certificated Taylorcraft airplane.
>
> Section 9, paragraph 146 of Order 8130.2F, now contains a note that
> states “A rebuilt, altered, or repaired type-certificated aircraft DOES
> NOT meet the intent of § 21.191(g) and DOES NOT meet the § 21.191(g)
> requirement that the major portion of the aircraft be fabricated and
> assembled.”
>
> It has never been the intent of either the regulations or FAA policy to
> allow the conversion of a type-certificated aircraft into an
> amateur-built aircraft. The intent of the regulation and policy can be
> tracked back as early as October 1952 in which the Civil Aeronautics
> Administration (predecessor of the FAA) published Civil Aeronautics
> Manual 1, which provided an interpretation of the amateur-built aircraft
> rule. The interpretation of Civil Air Regulation, part 1.74.3,
> Certification of Amateur-Built Aircraft, stated in part “…Structural
> components of other aircraft may be used; however, it is not intended
> that this provision be used to avoid obtaining approval of major
> alterations to aircraft previously certificated in another category…”
>
> Your aircraft may, however, be eligible for an airworthiness certificate
> in the experimental category for the purpose of exhibition under 14 CFR
> § 21.191(d). Valid exhibition purposes include organized air shows,
> fly-ins, youth education events, static displays, aerobatic competition,
> movie or television productions, etc. The aircraft’s eligibility for
> that certification would have to be determined by the local
> Manufacturing Inspection District Office (MIDO).
>
> If you have any questions concerning current FAA regulations or policy,
> please feel free to contact me.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ford J Lauer III
> Manager,
> Manufacturing Inspection District Office
> San Antonio, Texas
> Phone: (210) 308-3360
>
>
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I don't think you have much of a chance either, but what I think won't even get you a cup of coffee. Contact the EAA. They should be the experts.
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There are others that know way more about this than me but here's what I'd do. I would find paperwork from another plane...possibly from the one the wings you found are from and stick it's data plate on and go with it. Last year I contacted the local FSDO about building a plane from paperwork and they said as long as I had the paperwork, data plate and some part of the original plane...such as wings, then I could legally do it.
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Wow

Wow what a pain, Well i'm off to the fsdo this week should be short and painful from the sound of things,i'm trying to get the paperwork from the wing plane and hope that works if not i'm looking for papers, Sounds like 20 years ago on a different continent ( DO YOU HAVE YOUR PAPERS?) don't it? :shock:
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