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182 Gets New 29" ABW's

Last fall, I decided to get more year-round use out of my 1964 amphib 182-G by converting it to a backcountry rig. For the two previous winters I had leased it back to a local flight school near my second home in Henderson, NV, and we offered seaplane ratings on Lake Mead. I was down there a lot at the time so I got to play with it too. Now that I've semi-retired, I don't get down to Henderson much anymore (would you if you lived in the Tahoe area?)

The plane already had lots of great mods that would make it a strong off-field performer that can haul a lot of gear. Sportsman STOL, Wing-X extensions, IO550, MT 3-blade composite 83" prop, Atlee Dodge bush seats, Selkirk extended baggage, etc.

So, for the first time, I pulled the Aerocet 3400 floats off (I bought this plane in Canada three years ago on floats and didn't even own the wheel gear).

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During

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I picked up used main gear legs, axles, and nose assembly parts from Faeth aircraft in Sacramento and Beegles Aircraft Service in Colorado (they have an excellent Ebay store with good photos and the parts were always correct). A local shop sandblasted and powder coated old parts to look like new.

Based on good references from this forum, I consulted with and bought all the new aftermarket STC'd gear from Todd Hitchcock of Hitchcock Aviation. He was always responsive and helpful and priced competitively. I selected the Landis (Airglas) nose fork, and new Cleveland wheels with heavy duty double puck brakes.

I originally set it up with 8.50's all around but didn't like the tail-low stance, so I switched to a 7.00 on the nose and that was better. I flew it some in that configuration over the fall and winter.

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I enjoyed that set up but still wished for better ground clearance and rough field capability, so I decided to go "all the way" and recently installed 29" Alaska Bush Wheels and went back to the 8.50 on the nose.

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Now with this set up and a mid-range amount of air in the nose strut, it has 17" of prop clearance and 29" under the tail skid. This allows for plenty of latitude in the landing/takeoff attitude to hold the nose off without concern for a tail strike.

A couple of days ago I took a 100' tape out to a little-used public airport with a dirt strip and marked off every 100' with little surveyor's flags for 500' and put an old orange traffic cone at the beginning.

For my first efforts, I was not unhappy. At about 2300 lbs. (just me, some gear, ballast, and 40 gallons of fuel) and 5500' DA, light and variable quartering headwind on fairly smooth dirt, the tires leave the ground in about 300', with a good positive ROC by 500'. Thus far, I have my landing roll out at 500', but hope to improve with more practice.

About the ballast. I put two five gallon plastic jugs of water all the way in the back unless I'm carrying rear passenger(s) or lots of other payload like bikes and camping gear. On both floats and wheels, with the big IO550-D and the Seaplanes West heavy duty engine mount, even with the lighter MT prop, the CG is always near the forward limit and requires back pressure on final, even with full aft trim. With the ballast, it trims out nicely. It also just about does a "wheelie" instantly when you shove the throttle to the firewall with the yoke back for soft/rough field takeoff!

All in all, this is shaping up to be a great performing rig with a cavernous interior that can haul two full size mountain bikes, camping gear, or inflatable kayak or SUP's, and/or . . . . Yes, the old-school "purist" in me might prefer an older square tail with a Johnson bar, but I have to admit that the 4" wider cabin with 1" more height of this vintage is nice. And now that I'm used to the electric flaps, I don't mind 'em. I just count "one Mississippi . . ." and usually I'm where I want to be without looking.

Now, instead of mourning the end of summer, I'll be looking forward to crisp fall and winter days exploring the backcountry of northern Nevada and California!

Pierre
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Beautiful plane and an awesome setup!
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Nice, Pierre!

What did your cruise drop to when going from the 850read/700front to 29rear/850front?

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soyAnarchisto wrote:What did your cruise drop to when going from the 850read/700front to 29rear/850front?


Unfortunately, I didn't record that data while it was on the 8.50's. I just don't pay a lot of attention to cruise speed in this plane as I don't use it much for distance travel. I'll pay closer attention next trip and at least be able to report back on the current configuration. I seem to recall on my way back from that test strip the other day that it was indicating around 130 or so at about 7500'. DA Would have been around 8,000', so TAS might have been in the mid 140's.

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That's a great looking 182!
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:o
Wow.

What strut length do you use now?
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Sick!
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lesuther wrote::o
Wow.

What strut length do you use now?


Thanks for all the compliments guys! I have a couple of twentysomething sons, so I know that "sick" is a compliment, dude! :)

If you mean the nose gear strut, I have the "official" piece of 2" hose clamped around the base, plus about three fingers of chrome showing. Hope that answers.

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What he is not telling you.... He is my hanger neighbor... :D

Now there's two of us in TRK with big tires... #-o

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Hey Kevin,

When you weren't lookin, I snuck out of Truckee and am now based down in the "tropical" Carson Valley at Minden. Come visit when you get back and we'll swap lies (er, data) at the Taildragger Cafe.

Oh, and I blame you for infecting me with this case of "Bigtireitis" that caused me to tear a perfectly good seaplane apart! :)

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The Bushwheels really made it!!!!! Beautiful.
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Don't forget to mail the 337 to OK city. Sometimes people forget during the euphoria #-o ! Congratulations and welcome to the fat tire regime!!
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Very sweet Pierre!
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Love it!
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This is exactly what I am looking for... When I find the right 182, I'm going to dress her up just like this one!

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For some reason those 29"s just wont fit in the Mooney gear well.... #-o

That plane sure looks good!

I'm sure Justin is drooling now!
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8GCBC wrote:Don't forget to mail the 337 to OK city. Sometimes people forget during the euphoria #-o ! Congratulations and welcome to the fat tire regime!!


Thanks for the welcome! And thanks for the friendly reminder about paperwork. I'm not an A&P so I just assisted my trusty local A&P/IA as we worked in my hangar. He handles the documentation.

Took her out for a spin yesterday. First picked up a friend in Fallon, then on to Stead for pancake breakfast with the CAF guys. They just bought my 1959 150 Lowe taildragger. Then on to drop in on a buddy at his private strip surrounded by Plumas National Forest. 5900' MSL with taller terrain on three sides with shifty, swirly winds so I came in with a bit of margin over stall. I didn't know he was shooting video with his phone. Here it is. FYI, for reasons I won't go into here, the instructions are to land a few hundred feet past the white "X" which you can kinda see on the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vZ6Vq_ckQ

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Like!!!
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