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55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

I know there is a J-Air universal dipstick as well the way to make a wooden stick calibration. All that said, why is it no one has made a dip stick for all the various 182's out there? Any where in the wide world that might have documented the appropriate measurements to mark on a stick?

Seems there are plenty of 182 straight tails out there..

Really don't want to go through the empty tank adding 5 gallons at a time.

~Travis
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Delete - didn't really read your original post very well.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Perhaps the 172 version with the same capacity might get you close?
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

lesuther wrote:Perhaps the 172 version with the same capacity might get you close?


Possible, but havent seen that.

With out the wood sticks out there and lines on them -- one would think there would be a DIY document.. then again I am sure there are variances / liability issues.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Because every plane is different, they might be close but not the same. Tire size, amount of air in the strut, etc.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Make your own.....Dipstick. :idea:
No, really, the 5 gal at a time may seem a pain in the ass but it would work. May have to make a different stick for each tank, as was mentioned before each airplane maybe somewhat different than the next.
I handmarked the tank gauges on both my C-170 and my 7GCBC 5 gal at a time so now I know how much fuel I have left (taking in the factor that I marked the gauges while I had the tail up in approximatrly the same attitude as trimmed out cruising.)
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/p ... C17226.php

Mine is so variable, based on strut extension, etc. It took me 1.5 hours to do the fuel stick calibration. It wasn't my fave thing, but my marks are different than the ones already on the dip stick tube:

- Fly tanks down below half
- level in roll and ground level in pitch with 4" strut extension
- unfasten sump, drain left side, pour back unusable volume into empty left side
- pour rest into right side
- top off right side, mark full level on purchased dipstick tube
- siphon off to the nearest 5 gallon increment from the right side, then 5 gallon increments thereafter
- if the amount siphoned off the first time from the right side was less than 5 gals, add enough extra along with the amount taken to the left side
Continue in 5 gallon increments until half or more of the volume from the right side is siphoned.
- mark right side in decremented 5 gal steps, left side in incremented 5 gal steps.

This means you only have to do a few fuel transfers since you subtract on one side from full and add to the empty.

For example, I have 78 gals, so I actually marked off the full 39 on one side, siphoned off 4 gals to add to the left plus added another gallon to the left to make the next reading at 35/5 gals, then proceeded with 30/10, 25/15, and 20/20, for a total of four transfers plus empty/full. Most folks seem dead set on filling up their tanks from zero 5 gallons at a time. Life isn't that hard.

Over half of my time was spent safety wiring and filling the 5-gallon marks I made with a hack saw in the dip stick with black nail polish.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

I use stir sticks from the paint store for dipping tanks. easy to mark, and if you lose one it's no big deal. Maybe, maybe a small big deal if you drop it in the tank. :oops:
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lesuther wrote:http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/fuelhawkfuelgaugeC17226.php

Mine is so variable, based on strut extension, etc. It took me 1.5 hours to do the fuel stick calibration. It wasn't my fave thing, but my marks are different than the ones already on the dip stick tube:

- Fly tanks down below half
- level in roll and ground level in pitch with 4" strut extension
- unfasten sump, drain left side, pour back unusable volume into empty left side
- pour rest into right side
- top off right side, mark full level on purchased dipstick tube
- siphon off to the nearest 5 gallon increment from the right side, then 5 gallon increments thereafter
- if the amount siphoned off the first time from the right side was less than 5 gals, add enough extra along with the amount taken to the left side
Continue in 5 gallon increments until half or more of the volume from the right side is siphoned.
- mark right side in decremented 5 gal steps, left side in incremented 5 gal steps.

This means you only have to do a few fuel transfers since you subtract on one side from full and add to the empty.

For example, I have 78 gals, so I actually marked off the full 39 on one side, siphoned off 4 gals to add to the left plus added another gallon to the left to make the next reading at 35/5 gals, then proceeded with 30/10, 25/15, and 20/20, for a total of four transfers plus empty/full. Most folks seem dead set on filling up their tanks from zero 5 gallons at a time. Life isn't that hard.

Over half of my time was spent safety wiring and filling the 5-gallon marks I made with a hack saw in the dip stick with black nail polish.


Thanks, this is a great method to follow. How did you drain the sumps without it going all over the place?
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29singlespeed wrote:I know there is a J-Air universal dipstick as well the way to make a wooden stick calibration. All that said, why is it no one has made a dip stick for all the various 182's out there? Any where in the wide world that might have documented the appropriate measurements to mark on a stick?

Seems there are plenty of 182 straight tails out there..

Really don't want to go through the empty tank adding 5 gallons at a time.

~Travis



I make my own with stir sticks -Fill L/H tank - Take off and fly on left tank ,mark ,fly another hour on Left and add another mark . 56 182 has capacity of 60 gallons(55 useable) total ,57-59 is 65 gallons total divide by 2= 27.5 gallons a side. Or you can drain tanks and add 5 gallons at a time and and mark (I use file notches) -when you fly hour or ??? fill it up to where it was when you left divide gallons by time = gallons per hour .Don't EVER rely on fuel gauges in panel or wing.Go to Walmart kitchen section and get a kitchen timer -about 10-20 bucks.Use it to find about you have left before you go. Local flights I use 20-30 gallons.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Set your tank selector on the tank you want to drain, then take the fuel hose loose by the gascolator to drain. It will drain all usable fuel, and leave all of the unusable fuel. Much easier than trying to drain from the sumps.
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kevbert wrote:Set your tank selector on the tank you want to drain, then take the fuel hose loose by the gascolator to drain. It will drain all usable fuel, and leave all of the unusable fuel. Much easier than trying to drain from the sumps.


That's how I do it. However, there's diffeent definitions of "unusable fuel" so maybe this is what you end up with, maybe not. I like t drain ALL fuel to weigh for W&B purposes BTW.
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Go to Walmart kitchen section and get a kitchen timer -


Yes, a good idea, but aren't you already carrying a smart phone? They have good timer apps for them. Count up, count down- multiple timers.

And I agree with 'Do NOT trust your fuel gauges', especially since/if they are the old Cessna type that came with your airplane. Some planes (non Cessna) somewhere might be different (better), and newer ones might be actually accurate (hopefully), but I wouldn't trust what you/we have-at all. Period. For consistency either.

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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

Littlecub wrote:
Go to Walmart kitchen section and get a kitchen timer -


Yes, a good idea, but aren't you already carrying a smart phone? They have good timer apps for them. Count up, count down- multiple timers.

And I agree with 'Do NOT trust your fuel gauges', especially since/if they are the old Cessna type that came with your airplane. Some planes (non Cessna) somewhere might be different (better), and newer ones might be actually accurate (hopefully), but I wouldn't trust what you/we have-at all. Period. For consistency either.

lc


Ahh yeah FAA only requires them to be accurate when empty.. never trust gauges is pilot 101 or should be. It's a key point I always teach when instructing.

Thanks for all the info!
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Re: 55gallon Cessna Fuel Dip Stick

I prefer not to use elapsed time for timing my fuel burn. Fly for one hour at 55% power & one hour at 75% power -- same ealpsed time on the old kitchen timer but you're gonna burn different amounts of gas. I like to use tach time, it should go a little quicker at higher rpm & slower at low rpm- just like the fuel burn. Seems to work for me with fixed pitch props, maybe not so much for you guys with constant speeds. Don't have to remember to set the timer every time either-- every time I gas up I just write down the tach time & fuel quantity on a piece of tape & stick it on the panel.
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