Anyone try ADAPT yet?

I don't have any plans to equip with ADS-b but there may be a couple of times a year I want to access rule airspace. Looking at the FAA guidance and the AOPA overview it appears that at least for the near term ADAPT will work for me. I'm curious how it has worked for those that have tried it.

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/adapt/

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/december/pilot/ads-b-adapting-to-2020

I tried it once before my ADS-B test flight (after Jan, just in case it didn’t work).

I did it from my phone but didn’t have a good warm fuzzy feeling that it “took.” There wasn’t good feedback from the site.

I’d try it from a computer, if able.

I’ll give this a try because tomorrow I’m bringing a non-ADSB plane into an ADSB airport.

Decided to go ahead and complete the form on my phone while I’m waiting for another flight. Super easy, with instant approval.

Seems pretty straightforward. I thought there might be some gotchas but maybe not. Thanks guys.

Anyone have experience using this for a deviation to do a pre buy inspection flight? Meaning it would be just a couple landings at the same airport in rule airspace. Would think that would qualify, but have zero experience with this ADAPT tool. If purchased the aircraft would have an ADS-B solution before leaving the field again. Thanks!

I've had numerous people tell me they are getting them no problem, and that ATC doesn't give a s***.
Fear not

Been living off of adapt as I will never install AD-BS ever

COkoolaid wrote:Anyone have experience using this for a deviation to do a pre buy inspection flight? Meaning it would be just a couple landings at the same airport in rule airspace. Would think that would qualify, but have zero experience with this ADAPT tool.

My understanding is ATC - at least Class D - doesn't even know if a plane has AD-BS or not, as it doesn't show up on their screens. However, there is a computer in a windowless room somewhere that knows.

Thanks for the replies folks. Sounds like its not too big of an ordeal. Ill punch one up for the inspection flight and see how it goes!

A friend bought a plane that did not have ADSB so they used ADAPT to get home; they live in rule airspace. The shop doing their ADSB install was a week out so they made a few local flights using adapt successfully but then after 3 or 4 flights they could no longer get approval.

Has anyone seen a statement about how many times someone can get a waiver?

I was told that only some ATCs can see your ADSB data and many don’t care.

Whee, I haven't seen any "official" statement, other than the statement that ADAPT was to be used for "rare, non-routine, non-scheduled events"...

I suspect that there's not a set maximum number, but that your friend just made the request often enough that someone remembered seeing multiple requests before, did a check to see how often it had happened, and he hit the "Well, that's not rare, routine, or non-scheduled!" threshold. The same number of requests over a 6-month period might have been approved, but there's no guarantee of that, either.

I'm just glad ADAPT exists at all... My airplane "lives" inside the Mode-C ring for the DFW Class Bravo. I haven't needed to use ADAPT yet, but I have had ADS-B issues before the Jan 2020 deadline that would leave me grounded where I could not get maintenance without ADAPT.

Hopefully it is the same kind of thinking that allowed phone call with ETA and green light from tower and non-electric grandfather and pipeline patrol altitude waivers, etc.

Does anyone here fly pipeline? I would not be surprised if they wanted you to turn it off through Class B to keep the airline pilots from fussing. Some fuss with CTAS but most understand that you are "fifty feet off the trees and are not traffic? Experienced bureaucrats understand the need for exceptions to wide brush rules. Maintenance is considered a good thing.

Jim, I used to get off a line from Abilene at Meacham and dead head to get on another at Caddo Mills. I was paid by the mile, including dead head, but only for GPS direct on dead head. Wonder how l got through there weekly. I had also flown lines all over Dallas in the past.

I will not install the tracking device so use the waiver frequently, until we can move to normal America.

C180_guy wrote:I will not install the tracking device so use the waiver frequently, until we can move to normal America.

So, when exactly are you moving to Alaska? LOL

I used the waiver in March to get through Salt Lake, into Falcon at Phoenix, into Henderson for Conexpo, and home again through Salt Lake. It was a PIA. I’m now equipped. Done.

I'm thinking they came up with that "one time deviation" to be just that:
a one time deal so you could fly through rule airspace to get ADSB installed.
Stretching it to cover multiple occasional trips might work ok.
But I doubt they will allow people to use it as a standard ops procedure.

Be interesting to see if anyone has run into that problem

C180_guy wrote:Be interesting to see if anyone has run into that problem

You mean, like the guy Whee mentioned earlier in this thread?

Whee wrote:A friend bought a plane that did not have ADSB so they used ADAPT to get home; they live in rule airspace. The shop doing their ADSB install was a week out so they made a few local flights using adapt successfully but then after 3 or 4 flights they could no longer get approval.