What is your favorite flying film? Not the pearl harbor or old WWII stuff, more like the 16right, Cub Driver, Dead Stick, etc.

If you were watching a flying film what do you like to see?

Crazy how much attention a show like Flying Wild is getting, however I must admit I have not missed an episode. Last weeks was actually pretty cool with Mackey. Just wish they did more real flying rather than the bad weather pavement to pavement flying.

What else is out there aside from the Ohio guys (one of my favorites), Coyote (YEP), Dead Stick (Oh yeah!) etc? Personally I could watch the dead stick stuff all day. Good flying porn. Do you agree or disagree? I guess what I am getting at is that we have been filming our escapades all summer. Its pure flying porn. You will see it next summer and recognize folks in it as I have spoken to several of you. Trying to get a feel for the whole idea as we start the editing process and continue to capture more good flying. Would you like to see pure flying porn or a documentary style film? All ideas are welcome and I can assure you, your not going to be disappointed. I am purely curious to your thoughts. There is a large GA community out there that thinks what we are doing is absurd, but as most of you know, its really not, but then again we are a small part of GA.

Looking for your thoughts on the topic...

AKT

These are probably my favorite out of all youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/babybushwheel

[youtubewide]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAcocdKzqTA[/youtubewide]

aktahoe1 wrote: There is a large GA community out there that thinks what we are doing is absurd,

AKT

You mean those folks I see at every airport that are scared to death below 1000' agl? They usually land hauling some major ass way down the runway. Who cares what they think.

Personally I can't get enough of the OBP stuff, Swingle can do a mean edit.

I wish Tahoe was closer..... I want to appear as an extra

There is no such thing as too much hard core flying porn!

I like to see the stuff that individuals do.......good photography, and good video and good editing. Seeing new country with old and new aquaintances..getting to know the country from people who really like to do this kind of stuff..to hell with what the general GA public is doing or saying. As I have said before, there is some real talent here..both flying and documenting! Don't get me wrong 16 Right is a very good video and a very good message..in it's place. My first exposure was the video Idaho Exposed that I borrowed from a friend..I was hooked!! I wanted to go there and do that...to realize there were others who wanted to do the same thing was just icing on the "Cake".
AKT, when you showed pictures of your flying around Nevada & CA this fall, to me that's more places to explore..especially the old mining stuff in Nevada. Two of my special hobbies are old mines and old railroads in the west..usually the old mines were supported by the old railroads.
Coyote Ugly, Mountain Matt, Oregon Maule, Amacbean, Grasstrippilot, Courier Guy, and others..keep the videos and pictures coming in..this is our kind of flying..also keeps me reved up during the cold winter months when during some gawd awful blizzard there is something neat to watch.
Flying wild Alaska is something I watch now and then..not a bad show but kind of like Gold Rush, too much sensationalizing..but a little skin every now and then doesn't hurt either.

I use my laptop in my business from well before daylight to way after dark. It is mounted in my truck on a Jotto desk. The BCP forum is open all the time, and as a true BCP pervert I have to continually take a peak to see if anybody has posted any new porn.

I think what keeps me on the porn prowl is to be able see all of the country being explored from the air and then to see a plane parked there.

I am a student of the James Webb "Born Fighting" school of aristicratic respect.
I love to see an individual say to hell with the norm, to take the initiative to become a part of a machine that scares the shit out of most normal folks, and to be able to safely place that machine on the ground, not where the aristicrats said to land, but in some of the most remote beautiful places in the country. This is not done to please anyone, or for the approval of the fearful, but to be able to keep the smile permantly planted.

There is nothin' finer than the sweet lines of plane, backdropped by some rugged ass piece of land.( Welll almost nothin' )

So, in other words, do what you do, what makes you smile. We will lap it up like an old dog.

Its a rookie effort, but hopefully this satisfies your porn appetite...at least for5 minutes or so.

Just don't show a piston aircraft taking off or flying, but with a turbine in the audio

The ideal flying film is an amalgam of all the qualities you mentioned. I know you've seen enough Stump films to know what works and why his style was so successful.

Good footage can take you a long way but you're adding your own inner narrative the whole time... Everyone else in the room tunes out because they don't have enough flying experience or knowledge to put themselves in that cockpit.

A good film combines objective(s), great camera work, and personalities. We have personalities in abundance around here, but it takes a good director (like Greg Swingle) to recognize what will go to edit well. That's why big budget movies spend so much time on screenplay, storyboarding, research, and planning. That stuff has to be done before you ever pick up the camera if you hope to end up with something that's a real film and not so much just a porn compilation. A plot sounds cheesy, but that simple concept of watching the protagonist succeed at something they set out to do...is indispensable in narrative entertainment.

I'd be involved trying to help you accomplish the above if I wasn't nose-to-the-grindstone with my day job.

Every good movie has a good story to tell. I've watched my share of epic flying porn, and by the end of it, quite frankly I'm bored. I've also watched my share of WWII vets talk about their experiences and share their stories about epic triumphs and battles, and that never gets old.

As Zane said, pure flying porn only goes so far. I know the editing will be superb knowing your background, but getting personal in front of the camera is the key (and for most people, very hard to do). That's why shows like Gold Rush and Flying Wild AK do so well, the drama and getting you to feel like you know them. You add that element and it'll be a fantastic movie no doubt.

If one were to get a dedicated film crew on the ground at the BCP fly-in at JC, that would no doubt make an incredible film. The air to air and on board camera shots are great, but the ground shots are what can send it over the top.

You have my support 100% Kevin and I'm excited to see what the final product is. I only wish I lived closer and could be apart of the fun!

Z & MM already touched on the importance of the story but I'll add my .02. When I need a flying porn fix I troll the littany of money shots on youtube and vimeo - 3-5 minute segments are just about that right format for that kind of thing.

The most fundamental application of an aircraft is to take you to a destination - doesn't matter if that destination is physical or spiritual or even if the journey is in itself the destination. The story is in the challenge we undertake, the drama that ensues and the changes in us that occur as we work toward fulfillment of the objective, the aircraft and flying environs are just the medium for telling the story.

Develop a concept for your idea of a journey and then realize it. Given the context and your tastes I imagine that would entail a trip north to Ak or south to S America. Fly your 180 to Patagonia or to seek out a mentor living at the top of a glacier in Ak, give me a really good reason to care and show me how you can fly the hell out of that thing in the process - you could market it to well beyond just this circle.

Have you seen 180 South? Think that with a plane in place of a boat.

Here is a short film about Katahdin Air out of Millinocket Maine. One of the few flying services left up here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFGNjEbL8Q

Don't forget the girl.......left or right seat doesn't matter, but you can't forget the girl.......every good film or show has one.

I wish I knew how to edit my backcountry videos I have never learned that part. I just sit the camera on the dash and turn it off and on. Real porn stuff, sorry.