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Wished you would have posted this a couple days sooner. I was just thruogh Ohio on Friday. I would have stopped and looked at them.
I have a great idea though....how about flying them up here to my place, you'll even have a place to stay. That way I won't have to worry about the shipping. LOL JK!!

Good luck!!

...me too. I just mounted the new ones on the wheels yesterday. I could have flown up with the old ones, then bought the new ones there and switched them out?

Hey Patrol Guy

Any chance you'd share some "real" numbers from the life of your 31's? I have about 15 hours on my first ever set of 31's and they appear to be wearing great other than some tiny "cuts" in the tread. Most of my landings are on gravel and I assume the crushed rocks are causing the "tiny cuts". I would be interested to know total hours, approx number of landings, type of surface, average weight, PSI, and any other interesting info you would share. Thanks in advance.

Utah, I did figure that all up once and posted it either on here or on the super cub site. But from memory here goes:

2000 - 2200 total hours. Around 900 landings. 90-100 of them on pavement.

This was on a scout that took off every day at gross and landed around 300 pounds lighter. Mine have very few cuts, almost none, but saw thw cords show up on one of them.

I'm curious, not trying to be an ass, but why would someone do with a worn out set of tires? I assume you can't refurbish them any kind of way can you? I know your being honest, I'm in no way suggesting your not.

A64. ...well they are only worn out on one small spot on one tire.
The light spot should rotate up for the next landings right????

Someone who only flys on grass may get lots of life out of them?

Cablela's has a set on a "ceiling hanger" super cub in West Virginia. Maybe they will build more stores??

And if they didn't sell, I was going to take a truck tube, then cut a 3 inch continuous band and place in the center and see what wet suit glue would do???

I have heard that by putting one of the large patches that ABW sells over the first few spots that show cords there is lots of life to be had. Maybe someone will buy them and build a backcountry unicycle or some other creative use?

Patrol Guy, are you running 8 psi?

No, I mostly ran 12 to 15 pounds.

I'm running 12 to 14 on 29 Air Hawks. I thought that was high. I for some reason thought "real" bushwheels would be around 8 PSI.
This may be a stupid question, but how much is left when cord shows? They only bushwheels you usually see around here are at air shows.

I have some 29 Air Hawks also that I have been using until I swallowed hard and ordered the replacements for the Bushwheels.

I think 14-15 psi is what I've been using in them also. I have a smooth grass strip and that's why the extra pressure. If I am going to be on a rough place, I let the air down in both sets. I have had the Bushwheels down around 7psi, but they are squatting good on the scout (300-400 lbs heaverier then cubs).

On my last trip to Alaska with the 31" Bushwheels, I was real heavy and was landing at paved strips mostly, until I got up there. I ran 18 lbs then. Let the air out for the gravel bars, etc. One thing with hard tires on pavement, they don't "grab" on touch down like softer tires do.

That might also be why I have a worn spot only in the middle too! John

So lets say at 8psi I leave a 10 inch wide foot print and at 15 psi I leave a 5 inch wide foot print, will the tire last longer at 8psi?

I want to say yes because I am distributing the wear over 10 inches rather than 5, but on pavement and taxiing to the fuel pump it seems that it would wear less at the higher psi....? any thoughts?

Utah, the lower the pressure (on pavement) the quicker they'll wear out...it's because as the tire rotates it flexes as it contacts the ground, and that flexing moment is a scrubbing moment. It's that scrubbing action that wears them, the same thing as the scrubbing action from the gear moving through it's travel... on cubs they wear on the outside edge and so they need to be rotated often. Not the whole assy, but actually the tire flipped on the wheel.
I run mine hard on pavement, and 8-10 otherwise, I like to see a lot of "belly" in the tire and a wide footprint. If I'm going to one of the fishing holes that's really rocky I might be as low as 5, but I'm probably a bunch lighter than you guys...
This is my second set of radials, and I had a set of bias plys before that. I like the radials a lot more.
a64, if I was an outfitter with a couple working cubs on b-wheels I would be all over patrol guys wheels. having a spare set will save the day the first time you have a flat and need to keep the cub going. I was happy I had a spare when I ended up with a flat way out in the sticks...
FWIW this has been my limited experience with b-wheels...
Take care, Rob

a64, if I was an outfitter with a couple working cubs on b-wheels I would be all over patrol guys wheels

Rob, patrol guy didn't bribe you to advertise for him did he?

Actually, sounds like a good idea to have a used set for a spare or two.

Hi student,

I have very reasonable rates, what did you have in mind?

Note, that while a tire that shows a patch of chord may be considered unairworthy for "normal" use it would work as a "ferry" tire in a pinch !
just ask Motorcitymaule

Take care, Rob

Rob, The "scrubbing moment" makes sense, thanks. I guess if I was going someplace that I knew I would be pavement only I could increase the psi for that trip. But I bought them to avoid pavement and most trips I'm able to squeeze in some dirt and don't really want "hard" tires. My biggest potential for pavement wear is probably going to come taxing to and from the fuel pump, about 1000 feet one way to the pump. Would you say that will be enough to cause accelerated wear? What about my tiny cuts? Any experience with that?

thanks

I never run over 8 psi in my BW on a cub. Usually around 6.5, 4 if really ruff and or rocky.

I have noticed one of them has a heavy spot so every time I touch down that tires makes first contact on the same spot. Im sure thats where I will see my first cord showing. Bet the same thing happened to patrol.

How about "Rhino Liner" anyone tried it???

Hi tito,
are they balanced?