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Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

I have a 1955 180, the rear bench seat that came with my wagon when I bought it was not in the plane, however I do have it. Its in rough shape and the rear bar that extends off the back of it to the floor is broken off and missing.

Curious what other model seats will work? There is a rear bench seat out of a 1957 182 near me for sale that looks decent, would that fit?
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

Yes it will fit. Others on here may mention something about the paperwork. But it’s the same seat.
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

Right on! Thank you for the reply!
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

As stated, the seat frames (and belt attachments) are the same.

There is a small difference in the ends of the top latch on the back.

The '57 has end "flippers" that are notched aluminum channels that go into airframe channels and hook on a little rod.

The earlier years have either the above OR have bent-rod "flippers" that hook into notched plates on the airframe.

Good news is the latch parts on the back are interchangable. Save the parts from both, and use the ones that fit your airframe. (even just the ends are removable)

Both types are in the old parts book, so no paper should be needed, check with your AE

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BTW, I have good 180 seat with a good cover, that has the bent-rod flipper ends. FREE for shipping cost and something to BCP. I am in Davis, CA so shipping may govern.
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

You can have mine if you buy me a pair of these:
https://fadodge.com/removable-folding-jump-seats/
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

FWIW, when I had my ‘54 180, I tried putting the back seat in and out a few times. I found that process to be a destructive PITA and went with Lake View jump seats for that reason. I’d be curious if other people had a better technique that doesn’t involve trashing the aircraft’s interior.
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

flyingzebra wrote:FWIW, when I had my ‘54 180, I tried putting the back seat in and out a few times. I found that process to be a destructive PITA and went with Lake View jump seats for that reason. I’d be curious if other people had a better technique that doesn’t involve trashing the aircraft’s interior.


Same experience when I had my C170.
The rod "flippers" on the seat back always snagged the upholstery or scratched the window when installing or removing.
I replaced the bolts & nuts that hold the seat back to the bench with hitch pins & clips, pointed outboard..
(most folks call these hitch pins "clevis pins")
Time to remove the seat-- pull the locking clips, pull the hitch pins out toward the center of the airplane,
pull the seat back out, then unbolt the bench & remove it.
Much easier.
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flyingzebra wrote:FWIW, when I had my ‘54 180, I tried putting the back seat in and out a few times. I found that process to be a destructive PITA and went with Lake View jump seats for that reason. I’d be curious if other people had a better technique that doesn’t involve trashing the aircraft’s interior.


Yep I went with the LakeVue seats as well.

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Actually more comfortable then you would think.
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

I can neither confirm, nor deny that the later cessna factory jump seats do indeed fit nicely in the early wagons.

There is also a 3rd, and often overlooked STC option for seats in the early 180s. These are basically the same as the factory jump seats. Lighter, and easier in and out than the FA Dodge and Lakevue folding setups.

https://www.airframeinnovations.com/product-page/rear-seat-frames
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

I replaced the rear seat of my 1954 when I bought it in 2001 with the Attlee jump seats. I don't remember what I paid, much less than the price quoted here obviously. One of the best mods I've made. In addition to the ease of in and out, the strips on the floor are very useful for securing stuff. The thing I secure most often are my dogs. It's been my flying pickup for all these years. Great addition.
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

soyAnarchisto wrote:I can neither confirm, nor deny that the later cessna factory jump seats do indeed fit nicely in the early wagons.

There is also a 3rd, and often overlooked STC option for seats in the early 180s. These are basically the same as the factory jump seats. Lighter, and easier in and out than the FA Dodge and Lakevue folding setups.

https://www.airframeinnovations.com/product-page/rear-seat-frames


But unfortunately not much less expensive.
From the linked website:
"We can happily provide you with the FAA Approved STC, STC Installation Instructions and Approved Flight manual supplement for your aircraft with a pair of our seats for $3590.
OR
If you would like only one seat (left or right) we can provide a single conforming seat with all supporting documentation for $1750"

I had a single cessna jump seat in my old C170 (field approved), not the greatest IMHO:
1) the seat is farther forward, perhaps uncomfortably so, than either the Atlee Dodge or BAS seats.
2) the factory seats (of which the AI seats are a copy) only attach to the airplane at the outboard side.
The inboard side just sits on the floor-- no attachments.
3) the AI seats need seat bottoms & backs, Cessna used upholstered plywood. Add the cost of that to the price.
4) depending on the airplane, they might also need seatbelt attachments-- so figure another $250 for AA's seatbelt bracket kit.

IMHO either BAS or AD seats (I have BAS) are more satisfactory & so more value for the money
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Re: Cessna 180 rear seat compatability

hotrod180 wrote:IMHO either BAS or AD seats (I have BAS) are more satisfactory & so more value for the money


BAS = LakeVue seats. BAS no longer have seats - been a while now, they sold the STC to Denny (LakeVue). Denny was pretty responsive to all my questions when I was looking for a backseat solution.
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